VIDEO: Floz Adams... terrible game...

[Iago33]

Originally Posted by Juke99

Adams has always been an inconsistent performer...but that said, he's not as bad as these clips make him look.

Hopefully, it's rust...

Then again, I was never a person who felt that last season fell apart because Flozell Adams went down...he's good but he's not an elite tackle.

Huh? Was that someone else wearing his number? Or was the video altered to show something that didn't happen? How can you say he's not as bad as these clips make him look?

Granted, the video doesn't show many good plays, but it shows how bad he looks on certain plays (and the camera doesn't lie).

[dbair1967]

holy crap people...the guys 340-350 lbs and is coming off torn knee ligaments, and injury he suffered during last season...he got very little time in TC and preseason because of a calf injury...he gave up one sack and a couple of pressures and people are diving off the freaking cliff

Adams will be fine, he just needs more work...I suspect he'll be closer to 100% by the end of October

David

[Yakuza Rich]

Even the holding call on Flozell wasn't all that bad. He technically did hold Spicer for about a millisecond, but let go. There were plenty of more severe holds in that game by both teams that weren't called.

I've charted the game, Flozell wasn't as bad as some people say. And he clearly wasn't "holding on every play." Problem was that he'd play well for a stretch, then make a couple of bad plays that really killed some drives. I don't think he was anywhere near as poor as Torrin Tucker was last year.


YAKUZA

[Juke99]

Originally Posted by Iago33

Huh? Was that someone else wearing his number? Or was the video altered to show something that didn't happen? How can you say he's not as bad as these clips make him look?

Granted, the video doesn't show many good plays, but it shows how bad he looks on certain plays (and the camera doesn't lie).

OY.

Have you ever had a bad day in your life?

How 'bout we video tape it and say that's YOU...not that it's a bad day for you...but that's YOU.

My point was pretty obvious. He's not an elite tackle. In fact, I think he's only a bit better than an average tackle.

But he's typical peformance is not as bad as that game.

Is that more clear for you?

[DLCassidy]

Originally Posted by Juke99

OY.

Have you ever had a bad day in your life?

How 'bout we video tape it and say that's YOU...not that it's a bad day for you...but that's YOU.

My point was pretty obvious. He's not an elite tackle. In fact, I think he's only a bit better than an average tackle.

But he's typical peformance is not as bad as that game.

Is that more clear for you?

Sounds like the back and forth on the QB issue except we're missing the "play McQuistan now" threads.

[Sam I Am]

That was all footwork problems. Everytime Spicer went wide Flo's feet were in the wrong place. He didn't have any leverage. Hopefully he will fix those problems this week....

[Hoofbite]

Looks like there are 2 plays whre flozell did well but a blitz stopped the play.......don't really know what you could do there.

[AdamJT13]

Originally Posted by Hoov

the last play that was an INT had nothing to do with flo, you are right. but in almost every play spicer was getting the best of flo even if bledose got the pass off in time, it still was obvious that spicer owned him.

Spicer "owned" him on what, five plays? Six plays? Adams had a handful of bad plays -- too many, of course -- but he still played better than either of our tackles last season did in most games. Adams had a bad game, but many tackles have played far worse.

[ykc]

Why doesn't DB step up in the pocket to avoid these ends running around tackles?

[Yakuza Rich]

Originally Posted by AdamJT13

Spicer "owned" him on what, five plays? Six plays? Adams had a handful of bad plays -- too many, of course -- but he still played better than either of our tackles last season did in most games. Adams had a bad game, but many tackles have played far worse.

Spicer owned Flozell probably not even on that much. And the sack came in the last drive.

After I initially saw the game, I was pretty down on Flozell's play, but thought that Spicer's play didn't have a huge impact on the game. When I charted the game last night, Flozell's play was much better than I originally thought. He still had too many poor plays and somebody like Umenyiora will probably eat him alive, but he doesn't deserve to have his head served on a platter.

Plus, when I charted the game, Bledsoe was god awful and made a ton of bad decisions. If Bledsoe plays an average game, we probably win the game handily and the plays that Flozell played poorly probably never occur.


YAKUZA

[Yakuza Rich]

Originally Posted by ykc

Why doesn't DB step up in the pocket to avoid these ends running around tackles?

He did on occasion. On his second INT Stroud got upfield but was blocked past Bledsoe. Bledsoe started to run and then threw the ball on the run and it was picked off by Griesen. But, if Bledsoe would have just stepped up a couple of paces, he had plenty of time and a great pocket to throw in. Instead, he rushed his throw to Glenn for really no reason and it was picked off.


YAKUZA

[CATCH17]

Looks like he wasn't fully recovered from that strained leg muscle.

[ykc]

I think that is the main weakness in Bledsoe. He doesn't understand his pocket very well. He doesn't know which OL is having trouble against a particular DL and try to move a little away from them or slide in a way that gives him more time. He just drops back 7 steps and looking downfield all the time. JMO

Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

He did on occasion. On his second INT Stroud got upfield but was blocked past Bledsoe. Bledsoe started to run and then threw the ball on the run and it was picked off by Griesen. But, if Bledsoe would have just stepped up a couple of paces, he had plenty of time and a great pocket to throw in. Instead, he rushed his throw to Glenn for really no reason and it was picked off.


YAKUZA

[Yakuza Rich]

Originally Posted by ykc

I think that is the main weakness in Bledsoe. He doesn't understand his pocket very well. He doesn't know which OL is having trouble against a particular DL and try to move a little away from them or slide in a way that gives him more time. He just drops back 7 steps and looking downfield all the time. JMO

Problem is on that Interception Stroud made some penetration, but he was blocked pretty well by Rivera, so Rivera didn't have problems with him. My guess is that when Bledsoe stepped up in the pocket, he thought there was going to be somebody there to sack him. But in reality he had a great pocket and lots of time to throw.


YAKUZA

[ykc]

I agree. He is kind of hurrying his throws as if he is going to be hit by somebody right after the throw when in reality, he could have hold the ball a little longer (may be he is trying not to do that) and make better decisions

Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

Problem is on that Interception Stroud made some penetration, but he was blocked pretty well by Rivera, so Rivera didn't have problems with him. My guess is that when Bledsoe stepped up in the pocket, he thought there was going to be somebody there to sack him. But in reality he had a great pocket and lots of time to throw.


YAKUZA