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Old 09-14-2006   #16
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I did and I'm not going to sit here and blame the refs for our own poor play. Henry engaged the WR on that play both WR and Henry were pushing on each other thus is ended up being a no call. Witten extended his arms I have seen that called in the past and as I said I have seen that go as a no call as well so that call could have gone either way. I watched the play as more than just a Cowboys fan but as a fan of the game of football so I'm not going to look at this with a bias attitude or under the delusion that some how the refs had it in for us. Heck I though we had some close calls go ourway
I never said the refs cost us the game, but the refs blew that no call on them...if that was PI on Witten, it most certainly was on Williams as well...Williams clearly interfered to create an opportunity to catch the ball, if he doesnt pull henry out of the way there is no chance for him to even get his hands on the ball...I dont think you can say the same about Witten's play

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Old 09-14-2006   #17
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I never said the refs cost us the game, but the refs blew that no call on them...if that was PI on Witten, it most certainly was on Williams as well...Williams clearly interfered to create an opportunity to catch the ball, if he doesnt pull henry out of the way there is no chance for him to even get his hands on the ball...I dont think you can say the same about Witten's play

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Henry engaged Williams on the play and was just as guilty of contact as the WR was. On Witten play he ran up on the defender extended his both arms which allowed seperation and turned to catch the ball. Had Witten not extended both arms chances are it would have gone as a no call.
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Henry engaged Williams on the play and was just as guilty of contact as the WR was. On Witten play he ran up on the defender extended his both arms which allowed seperation and turned to catch the ball. Had Witten not extended both arms chances are it would have gone as a no call.
uh, Mathis engaged the contact on Witten too, if you look at it again, Witten only extends his arms after Mathis has both of his hands on him, the reason it was called was because the ref saw the ball coming towards Witten, and Witten pushing off to get away from Mathis, OPI, same thing that Reggie and Henry did, only it wasn't called on Reggie like it was on Witten

again, if Witten didn't extend his arms, and just turned around, PI most certainly would have been called on Mathis, just the only problem we have is, that in a same situation, they didn't call the PI on Reggie
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uh, Mathis engaged the contact on Witten too, if you look at it again, Witten only extends his arms after Mathis has both of his hands on him, the reason it was called was because the ref saw the ball coming towards Witten, and Witten pushing off to get away from Mathis, OPI, same thing that Reggie and Henry did, only it wasn't called on Reggie like it was on Witten

again, if Witten didn't extend his arms, and just turned around, PI most certainly would have been called on Mathis, just the only problem we have is, that in a same situation, they didn't call the PI on Reggie
Sorry I did not see it that way and the ref did not either. Now I have no doubts about my loyalty to the Cowboys and I do feel I have a pretty good understanding of the game and the rules of the game just as you do but yet we see the same plays in the clips yet we don't see it the same.
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so you didn't see both of Mathis' hands on Witten before he extended his arms? it's clear as day

we're just asking that the refs show some consistency in their calls
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uh, Mathis engaged the contact on Witten too, if you look at it again, Witten only extends his arms after Mathis has both of his hands on him, the reason it was called was because the ref saw the ball coming towards Witten, and Witten pushing off to get away from Mathis, OPI, same thing that Reggie and Henry did, only it wasn't called on Reggie like it was on Witten

again, if Witten didn't extend his arms, and just turned around, PI most certainly would have been called on Mathis, just the only problem we have is, that in a same situation, they didn't call the PI on Reggie

That is a pretty fair analysis.

William's no-call seems clearly more abvious to me, however. He grabs Henry by the back of the head and pulls him down. Pretty a poor no-call IMO. Witten's push-off IS technically PI, but a fairly weak one at that. Seems to me that Witten would have gotten the seperation without the push off (Mathis seemed ot be playing a little soft on that play). Too bad.

Here's to getting the better end of the officiating next week.
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so you didn't see both of Mathis' hands on Witten before he extended his arms? it's clear as day

we're just asking that the refs show some consistency in their calls
I saw the play and re-watched the clip that is posted here. I don't think Mathis interfered with Witten he held his ground and I think had Witten not extended his arms it would have gone as a no call. Now on Henry play he runs up to Williams in the end zone and engages the WR, Williams does push back so both players are making contact but and it goes as a no call. In my opinion the plays were not the same and thus one was called offensive PI and the other a no call. Just my opinion and I don’t say this with any joy about it I would loved to have seen the ref let Wittens play go but I did see what he saw on the play so I can’t complain. That is if you want my honest opinion.
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