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Old 08-25-2004   #31
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Granted it is only pre-season and he has not thrown that many passes but his 75% completion rate has stood out to me. I still see things he needs to work on I think he hurries himself at times instead of looking down field but by and large I think as the game starts to slow down for him he will become an outstanding QB

Agreed...you can still see the rookie things he does...not going through all the progressions, staring some receivers down...holding onto the ball a tad to long instead of throwing it away.

However by and large I just think he looks much more poised and in command then most rookies do and then take into account he has been away from football for a few years...sure he has gained maturity for playing baseball but still it is impressive.


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Agreed...you can still see the rookie things he does...not going through all the progressions, staring some receivers down...holding onto the ball a tad to long instead of throwing it away.

However by and large I just think he looks much more poised and in command then most rookies do and then take into account he has been away from football for a few years...sure he has gained maturity for playing baseball but still it is impressive.
No doubt about it, Henson looks like he has done this before there seems to be a certain calm about him and he looks under control. I think as the game slows down for him he will be more than fine. To me some guys look like the speed of the NFL game has their heads spinning but I don't see a lot of that with Henson.
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Well...pack that jersey up and hide it away....then if Henson becomes a great player down the road...you will have a nice collectors item on your hands.

That or you could change the name on the back of the jersey to White and have to QB Jerseys.

Maybe I'll get Henson to sign it and It'll be a collectors item worth even more money!


I always did like Danny White!

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I've liked him from day one...unlike the way I felt about Hutch and Carter...who were more a product of Jerry's marketing than anything else.

Henson's the real deal...come on BP, let yourself go...just one little Snoopy Happy Dance...


Jerry hyped Carter, but no one else did. It was widely reported that Carter was taken too early.
Hutchinson was hyped so much by media and others before the cowboys even signed. Remember the cowboys had to outbid several other teams to get Hutchinson.

The best thing about Henson is that his contract is such that the front office should not have any trouble putting good players around him to help him be successful.

What I hope is that when the team starts having success, Jones doesn't give all the credit to the qb and sign him to a ridiculous contract like the one that he gave Aikman, unless Henson really shows that he is a true "franchise" player like Staubach or Emmitt Smith.
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What I hope is that when the team starts having success, Jones doesn't give all the credit to the qb and sign him to a ridiculous contract like the one that he gave Aikman, unless Henson really shows that he is a true "franchise" player like Staubach or Emmitt Smith.


of Troy Aikman?
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Henson still has his baseball-style of throw when on the move and it seems to work for him. I saw pictures from camp or minicamp with him throwing with the overhead motion most QBs have to use to get over the linemen's heads, but he is tall enough to not have much of a problem with that. Still, I'm guessing you will see him throw with the overhead motion while he is in the pocket, but when it breaks down, he will use his very accurate sidearm delivery while he is on the move.

He's gonna be fun to watch.
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of Troy Aikman?

did you mean or Troy Aikman?

I think Aikman was good and he will be a first ballot hall of famer. But IMO, a franchise player is one that you build your offense or defense around.

Like Elway or Marino, or Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson, Jim Brown, Walter Payton. on defense it could be a Dick Butkus, Warren Sapp, Ray Lewis, Lawrence Taylor.

Those guys and many others were franchise players, I don't see how anyone would put Aikman in the same category. Hall of Fame? yes. True franchise carrying player? I really don't see it.

And I'm getting off of this Aikman thing, he is long retired now. And some of you guys keep blowing it up like I am saying he was terrible.

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did you mean or Troy Aikman?
Ahh, so you do know who he is.

Yes, thank you.
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Ahh, so you do know who he is.

Yes, thank you.

read my edit just above. Of course I know who he is, I was one of many rooting him on while he helped my favorite team win three superbowls.

That said, I wanted them to trade him after that loss to Carolina in the playoffs. Because I was sure that with Smith no longer being the dominant runner he had been during the superbowl years, Aikman would not be able to step up and take on a bigger load of carrying the offense.

But I figured a 3 time superbowl winning qb would bring even more in trade than Herschell Walker. It wasn't until later that I found out how the salary cap worked and it really would not have been possible.
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read my edit just above. Of course I know who he is, I was one of many rooting him on while he helped my favorite team win three superbowls.

That said, I wanted them to trade him after that loss to Carolina in the playoffs. Because I was sure that with Smith no longer being the dominant runner he had been during the superbowl years, Aikman would not be able to step up and take on a bigger load of carrying the offense.

But I figured a 3 time superbowl winning qb would bring even more in trade than Herschell Walker. It wasn't until later that I found out how the salary cap worked and it really would not have been possible.
In fact, The Cowboys did build there offense and defense around Aikman's skills. Norv's timing offense was perfectly suited to Aikman's skills. The offense was build to control the clock and wear down the opponent. The defense was not really built to last. They were built for speed. Very fast, but not big enough to stay on the field. The defense banked on the fact that the offense would keep the other teams opportunities to a minimum.

I respect your opinion as a poster entitled but I think people sell Aikman short.

No matter, I suspect this is one of those things were better of agreeing (sp?) to disagree on.
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In fact, The Cowboys did build there offense and defense around Aikman's skills. Norv's timing offense was perfectly suited to Aikman's skills. The offense was build to control the clock and wear down the opponent. The defense was not really built to last. They were built for speed. Very fast, but not big enough to stay on the field. The defense banked on the fact that the offense would keep the other teams opportunities to a minimum.

I respect your opinion as a poster entitled but I think people sell Aikman short.

No matter, I suspect this is one of those things were better of agreeing (sp?) to disagree on.

The reason I disagree with that is the team won no matter who played qb. They won with qb's like Peete, Garret, Kosar. None of those guys had the same type of game as Aikman.

But even with Aikman, they could not win without Smith.
How is saying that Aikman was a very good player selling him short? Are you saying that he is on the level of Players like Marino, Lawrence Taylor, and Emmitt Smith?

I don't see how anyone can look at his production and make that type of statement.
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The reason I disagree with that is the team won no matter who played qb. They won with qb's like Peete, Garret, Kosar. None of those guys had the same type of game as Aikman.

But even with Aikman, they could not win without Smith.
How is saying that Aikman was a very good player selling him short? Are you saying that he is on the level of Players like Marino, Lawrence Taylor, and Emmitt Smith?

I don't see how anyone can look at his production and make that type of statement.

You don't appear to be having much success with the whole, "getting off this Aikman thing". After all, he has been retired for some time now.
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You don't appear to be having much success with the whole, "getting off this Aikman thing". After all, he has been retired for some time now.

Oh, you wanted the last word? My bad.
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Oh, you wanted the last word? My bad.
LOL!!!!!!


Well, now you know. Next time, I'll try to be more clear about it.

Nice try though.
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I seems as if the bandwagon has started... should I pull out the radio flyer and started adding members?
I'm not ridin' in no GAY Radio Flyer!!

If THIS is the best you ppl can do, I'll drive my-OWN-self!!
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