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Chuck 54 · 10-30-2006

Okay...I give up...I'm finally in the group that thinks he has to go or get more direction from somewhere.

Last night was a microcosm of our entire season in the 3-4...no pressure on the QB when the game was close...very little pressure on the QB when we were behind.

The only time we start blitzing and bringing people from different and creative angles is when we get the lead...when we're the frontrunners.

Carolina wasn't scoring at will, but they were still making small gains in the running game, finding receivers open, especially the RB's who dropped quite a few first down opportunities, and several 3rd down plays when Delhomme had plenty of time to do whatever he wanted.

This is a storyline that I intend to watch more closely in the future...if we can bring all those blitzes that not only get to the QB but also shut down the run game and confuse the offense when we have a lead, why don't we ever use them when the game is close or when we are behind.

Great win, great start for Romo, great running by JJ and MBIII, great games by T.O. and Witten...so/so game for the OL who still had issues with pass protection early and penalties all game long, but a great win.

I want to see Zimmer start being more aggressive all game long instead of only when we have a cushiony lead.

Thoughts?

theogt · 10-30-2006

Actually we got a good amount of pressure last night. 3 sacks, a FF on the QB, and a forced INT. Delhomme has a quick release so he beat us on a couple other opportunities. Still he was making some bad throws because of pressure and that's exactly what you want. It wasn't a 6 sack game, but he didn't have a lot of time in the pocket.

**MichaelWinicki** · 10-30-2006

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Originally Posted by wayne_motley

Okay...I give up...I'm finally in the group that thinks he has to go or get more direction from somewhere.

Last night was a microcosm of our entire season in the 3-4...no pressure on the QB when the game was close...very little pressure on the QB when we were behind.

The only time we start blitzing and bringing people from different and creative angles is when we get the lead...when we're the frontrunners.

Carolina wasn't scoring at will, but they were still making small gains in the running game, finding receivers open, especially the RB's who dropped quite a few first down opportunities, and several 3rd down plays when Delhomme had plenty of time to do whatever he wanted.

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I blame Spears/Canty more than Zimmer. Those guys can't rush the passer.

Sam I Am · 10-30-2006

Yeah, (3) sacks, a forced fumble and gave up 204 total yards (1) TD was on a short field via a turnover. I think the Cowboys dominated Carolina. Sure there were a few plays were less than what you want, but that happens in every game. 204 yards of total offense is nothing. Subtract garbage time yards and it's even worse than 204 total yards.

Yeagermeister · 10-30-2006

Welcome aboard the GROZ train

THUMPER · 10-30-2006

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Originally Posted by wayne_motley

Okay...I give up...I'm finally in the group that thinks he has to go or get more direction from somewhere.

Last night was a microcosm of our entire season in the 3-4...no pressure on the QB when the game was close...very little pressure on the QB when we were behind.

The only time we start blitzing and bringing people from different and creative angles is when we get the lead...when we're the frontrunners.

Carolina wasn't scoring at will, but they were still making small gains in the running game, finding receivers open, especially the RB's who dropped quite a few first down opportunities, and several 3rd down plays when Delhomme had plenty of time to do whatever he wanted.

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The GROZ movement gets bigger every week. Welcome!

joseephuss · 10-30-2006

Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys didn't blitz too often until afteer they had a lead. They relied on the front four to get pressure. Once they got the lead, then they would release the hounds. This was the common MO. The same one that Parcell's likes to use as well. They may vary it a bit, but most of the time they won't blitz until they feel secure about their lead.

Little Jr · 10-30-2006

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Originally Posted by wayne_motley

Okay...I give up...I'm finally in the group that thinks he has to go or get more direction from somewhere.

Last night was a microcosm of our entire season in the 3-4...no pressure on the QB when the game was close...very little pressure on the QB when we were behind.

The only time we start blitzing and bringing people from different and creative angles is when we get the lead...when we're the frontrunners.

Carolina wasn't scoring at will, but they were still making small gains in the running game, finding receivers open, especially the RB's who dropped quite a few first down opportunities, and several 3rd down plays when Delhomme had plenty of time to do whatever he wanted.

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If you want the D to me more agressive get rid of BP. He's the one who doenst like to blitz. I just dont understand why people dont understand that. Especially since BP has stated it before. I could care less if we got rid of Zim but he's not the one who chooses to have a passive D.

superpunk · 10-30-2006

I agree, why hold the players accountable when you can blame the coaching? Surely Zimmer is instructing Ware to not win his individual matchups.

Shockingly, this post comes after we play perhaps our best defensive game of the year.

TwentyOne · 10-30-2006

Welcome!!!

baj1dallas · 10-30-2006

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Originally Posted by wayne_motley

Last night was a microcosm of our entire season in the 3-4...no pressure on the QB when the game was close...very little pressure on the QB when we were behind.

Dude that's exactly the way you're supposed to do it. Once the other team has to pass, you tee off on the QB. But early you play man up for the most part and force them to make plays. They blitzed often early, sent a 5th guy a lot which worked because Carolina doesn't seem to have much of a short passing game. Overall I thought it was a well called game defensively with Roy showing great range on the pick and no big plays given up by Pat Watkins.

Doomsday101 · 10-30-2006

I don't really care about how many sacks we get I care about how many points you give up. Defense still has some things to improve on but they have also made some big plays this season even in some of the loses. So I'll let the Anti-Zimmer train move on without me

fortdick · 10-30-2006

With Steve Smith and Keyshawn out there, you have to be very careful. They played cover two most of the night. That means only seven iin the box. Add to that the linebackers having to respect the pass and you have, at best, a four man rush. I think Zimmie did a great job last night. HE shut down the most dangerous receiver duo we have yet to face.

Our D was awesome in the second half. Where do you come up with this?

Doomsday101 · 10-30-2006

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Originally Posted by fortdick

With Steve Smith and Keyshawn out there, you have to be very careful. They played cover two most of the night. That means only seven iin the box. Add to that the linebackers having to respect the pass and you have, at best, a four man rush. I think Zimmie did a great job last night. HE shut down the most dangerous receiver duo we have yet to face.

Our D was awesome in the second half. Where do you come up with this?

You got that right. All I heard last week is how Smith was unstoppable well I was not overly impressed with Smith at all. Dallas D did a great job of stopping the unstoppable!

Galian Beast · 10-30-2006

We are now ranked 4th in the nfl in overall defensive yards allowed.
We're ranked 3rd in the NFL in rushing yards allowed.
We're ranked 12 in the NFL in passing yards allowed.

We're ranked 8th in the NFL on 1st downs allowed.
We're ranked 8th in the NFL on 3rd down conversion percentage allowed.

We're rated 7th in the NFL in opponent Passing rating. So much for the lack of blitz really hurting us. We're also rated 11th in the NFL in total sacks throughout the season. Only 3 teams with more sacks than us have a lower allowed QB rating. Chicago has the lowest QB rating allowed, and has only 4 more sacks than us.

Ranked 6th in the NFL in penalties on Defense.