Scott Shanle and Scott Fujita - Dallas Cowboys Forum

**big dog cowboy** · 01-01-2007

According to NFL.com, Scott Shanle had 73 solo tackles this year. The leading tackler for the Cowboys was Henry with 73.

Scott Fujita is listed #2 for the Saints at 64 solo tackles. The Cowboys #2 is listed as Bradie James and Akin Ayodele at 64 solo tackles.

So the guys who weren't good enough for our D seem to have done alright in New Orleans for Sean Peyton.

THUMPER · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by big dog cowboy

According to NFL.com, Scott Shanle had 73 solo tackles this year. The leading tackler for the Cowboys was Henry with 73.

Scott Fujita is listed #2 for the Saints at 64 solo tackles. The Cowboys #2 is listed as Bradie James and Akin Ayodele at 64 solo tackles.

So the guys who weren't good enough for our D seem to have done alright in New Orleans for Sean Peyton.

But that can't be beacuse of the coaching can it?

Deputy493 · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by big dog cowboy

According to NFL.com, Scott Shanle had 73 solo tackles this year. The leading tackler for the Cowboys was Henry with 73.

Scott Fujita is listed #2 for the Saints at 64 solo tackles. The Cowboys #2 is listed as Bradie James and Akin Ayodele at 64 solo tackles.

So the guys who weren't good enough for our D seem to have done alright in New Orleans for Sean Peyton.

Don't forget T. Copper who all of a sudden is a pretty good WR to go along with his special teams play.

Yakuza Rich · 01-01-2007

Those guys aren't as great as it seems, especially if you watch NO's defense...which is pretty bad. We miss Shanle because he would take Burnett's spot in the nickel. He's a good cover guy who blitzes well and since Burnett and James suck at both, we really miss him in the nickel. We could use him in the 3-4 as well, but he's bad against the run and I don't think Parcells would be too keen on that. Fujita was nice as a backup here, but when he became the starter he was bad. He may be better suited in the 3-4 as an ILB than a LOLB. I'm not for the 4-3, but if we did have these guys then the 4-3 would be better for us since they are better suited for that scheme.

YAKUZA

stealth · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Deputy493

Don't forget T. Copper who all of a sudden is a pretty good WR to go along with his special teams play.

saints fans been complaining about copper most of the season.
you pick the wrong bandwagons to pile on.

Yakuza Rich · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by THUMPER

But that can't be beacuse of the coaching can it?

Comparing tackles in the 4-3 vs. a 3-4 defense is a bit unfair because you have more LB's so more guys have a chance to make tackles. Especially in Ayodele's case since he usually doesn't play on 3rd downs. And New Orleans' defense is no great shakes either.

YAKUZA

Alexander · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by stealth

saints fans been complaining about copper most of the season.
you pick the wrong bandwagons to pile on.

I agree.

Fujita has been okay. But we did make a mistake with Shanle. Fowler did a terrible job in goalline and the nickel trying to replace him.

EastDallasCowboy · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by big dog cowboy

According to NFL.com, Scott Shanle had 73 solo tackles this year. The leading tackler for the Cowboys was Henry with 73.

Scott Fujita is listed #2 for the Saints at 64 solo tackles. The Cowboys #2 is listed as Bradie James and Akin Ayodele at 64 solo tackles.

So the guys who weren't good enough for our D seem to have done alright in New Orleans for Sean Peyton.

As they say, somebody has to make the tackles.

As for Copper, he had a couple pretty bad drops....one that lost them a game, if i recall.

Deputy493 · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by stealth

saints fans been complaining about copper most of the season.
you pick the wrong bandwagons to pile on.

really?

Everytime I have watched the Saints he has been rather productive.

theogt · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

Those guys aren't as great as it seems, especially if you watch NO's defense...which is pretty bad. We miss Shanle because he would take Burnett's spot in the nickel. He's a good cover guy who blitzes well and since Burnett and James suck at both, we really miss him in the nickel. We could use him in the 3-4 as well, but he's bad against the run and I don't think Parcells would be too keen on that. Fujita was nice as a backup here, but when he became the starter he was bad. He may be better suited in the 3-4 as an ILB than a LOLB. I'm not for the 4-3, but if we did have these guys then the 4-3 would be better for us since they are better suited for that scheme.

YAKUZA

You know who seemed to blitz well up the middle? Carpenter. It was one of the first times I've seen an ILB make it to the QB up the middle (though he may have been playing OLB in the 4-3 at the time, which isn't all that different).

That's another problem with losing Ellis. I think Parcells wanted Carp to eventually take James' place at ILB. If he didn't, he should have wanted it.

Yeagermeister · 01-01-2007

Fuji wasn't needed and Shanle would have been riding the bench all season. Only reason he ever got to play was injuries.

Munchis · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by big dog cowboy

According to NFL.com, Scott Shanle had 73 solo tackles this year. The leading tackler for the Cowboys was Henry with 73.

Scott Fujita is listed #2 for the Saints at 64 solo tackles. The Cowboys #2 is listed as Bradie James and Akin Ayodele at 64 solo tackles.

So the guys who weren't good enough for our D seem to have done alright in New Orleans for Sean Peyton.

Scott Shanle is an animal and makes plays every time he's on the field. We should have never traded him to NO, we aren't even getting near equal value in return with a 4th round pick.

Jerry Jones needs to make wholesale changes.....starting in the front office for poor roster management.

Munchis.....Out!!!

jterrell · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by THUMPER

But that can't be beacuse of the coaching can it?

they are being coached by the same guys who coached him here but nice try....

Yeagermeister · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by theogt

You know who seemed to blitz well up the middle? Carpenter. It was one of the first times I've seen an ILB make it to the QB up the middle (though he may have been playing OLB in the 4-3 at the time, which isn't all that different).

That's another problem with losing Ellis. I think Parcells wanted Carp to eventually take James' place at ILB. If he didn't, he should have wanted it.

James came free on a blitz vs Philly but Garcia just side stepped him.

theogt · 01-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Yeagermeister

James came free on a blitz vs Philly but Garcia just side stepped him.

Yeah, I recall a couple times James has actually made it past the LOS. That's why I said "one of the ... times." Still, James is much too slow to be consistent at blitzing. Some people just can't blitz. James is one of those people.

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