Texas/Arkansas game... - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Rack Bauer · 09-11-2004

What a great game, right down to the wire. Loved it.

A couple of notes...

I've been saying the last two years that Cedric Benson has a ton of talent, but sometimes just doesn't run very hard. I said if he continued to run like he did in the early part of last season he wouldn't be a first round pick. Well... he ran his a$$ off tonight. He doesn't have great speed, but has good quickness, good vision, great balance, and can move the pile. Actually, the way he was running tonight, he reminded me a lot of Emmitt Smith.

Speaking of Benson, he almost cost the Horns the game. At the end of the game he got like a 12 yard run and a first down and ran out of bounds. I was like, " ?" You got to just slide down and STAY inbounds. That cost them about 35 seconds. Then a few plays later Vince Young did the same thing. If BOTH of them stay in bounds on those plays, Arkansas wouldn't of even got the ball back.

Speaking of Vince Young, there isn't a better athlete in the Nation at the QB position then Vince Young. BUT, he's NOT a good QB.... yet. He gets by on his athletic ability right now. If he can ever learn to set his feet, read the defense, go through his progressions, and deliver the football he'll be a #1 pick. But on a lot of his passes he looks like he's just buyiing time so he can run, like he's not even considering throwing the football. He has a ROCKET arm, but his accuracy isn't very good. A big reason for that is he doesn't set his feet. A BIG TIME playmaker at the QB position, but not yet a big time QB. I really like the kid though, I hope he develops as a QB.

Matt Jones lost the game (duh). He turned the ball over on 2 of the last 3 possessions (they had a certain game winning FG on the second to last one) and on the last possession he decided to run, but didn't get the 1st and didn't get the first down. That cost them at least 12 seconds. He should of just thrown it away. Another great athlete at the QB position, but not a great QB.

RatisBeast · 09-11-2004

Just glad UT got the win, great game to watch, now on to tomorrow hope we can pull it off.....

Roughneck · 09-11-2004

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Originally Posted by RoyWillisill

Just glad UT got the win, great game to watch, now on to tomorrow hope we can pull it off.....

Damn right.

jimmy40 · 09-11-2004

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Originally Posted by Rack

What a great game, right down to the wire. Loved it.

A couple of notes...

I've been saying the last two years that Cedric Benson has a ton of talent, but sometimes just doesn't run very hard. I said if he continued to run like he did in the early part of last season he wouldn't be a first round pick. Well... he ran his a$$ off tonight. He doesn't have great speed, but has good quickness, good vision, great balance, and can move the pile. Actually, the way he was running tonight, he reminded me a lot of Emmitt Smith.

Speaking of Benson, he almost cost the Horns the game. At the end of the game he got like a 12 yard run and a first down and ran out of bounds. I was like, " ?" You got to just slide down and STAY inbounds. That cost them about 35 seconds. Then a few plays later Vince Young did the same thing. If BOTH of them stay in bounds on those plays, Arkansas wouldn't of even got the ball back.
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Another note....
Texas' defensive ends suck

Cbz40 · 09-11-2004

Go Horns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rack it's past your bed time..........now go to bed!

RicInAustin · 09-11-2004

On the 12 yard run by Benson that you mentioned, it didnt matter that he ran out of bounds after the run because he already had the first down, and the clock would have stoped anyway. Correct me if I am wrong, but in college football, the clock stops after every first down.

Good game from start to finish. Anyone know the status of Selvin Young? He went out in the first half with an injury. Hopefully he wont be out too long.....thats a mean one-two punch at RB with him and Benson.

lzppjb · 09-11-2004

The clock would have started again after the chains were set. We could have stood in the huddle for a while and milked the clock. Both should have stayed in bounds. I'm glad it didn't bite us in the ***.

Selvin Young fractured his ankle and is out indefinitely. The trainer said it wasn't good. I'm pissed about that. But we've got Frosh Ramonce Taylor. He's gonna show what a badarse he is. Think small and fast as hell.

The piggies are a bunch of classless bastids. I'm a Longhorn and I appreciate the rivalry. But did anyone see that DT tackle Vince Young and then wrench his ankle? It knocked VY out for a play as he limped off. While he was on the ground, the pig fans cheered. Bunch of jerks. I got one stat for all piggy fans...

55-21 Horns lead the all-time series!

Hook 'em

Roughneck · 09-11-2004

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Originally Posted by RicInAustin

On the 12 yard run by Benson that you mentioned, it didnt matter that he ran out of bounds after the run because he already had the first down, and the clock would have stoped anyway. Correct me if I am wrong, but in college football, the clock stops after every first down.

Good game from start to finish. Anyone know the status of Selvin Young? He went out in the first half with an injury. Hopefully he wont be out too long.....thats a mean one-two punch at RB with him and Benson.

Yes but it restarts again after the officials set the chains.

jamez25 · 09-12-2004

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Good game from start to finish. Anyone know the status of Selvin Young? He went out in the first half with an injury.

the sideline reporter said he had a fractured ankle....probably gone for the year. that sux !!!

jimmy40 · 09-12-2004

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Originally Posted by lzppjb

The clock would have started again after the chains were set. We could have stood in the huddle for a while and milked the clock. Both should have stayed in bounds. I'm glad it didn't bite us in the ***.

Selvin Young fractured his ankle and is out indefinitely. The trainer said it wasn't good. I'm pissed about that. But we've got Frosh Ramonce Taylor. He's gonna show what a he is. Think small and fast as hell.

The piggies are a bunch of classless bastards. I'm a Longhorn and I appreciate the rivalry. But did anyone see that DT tackle Vince Young and then wrench his ankle? It knocked VY out for a play as he limped off. While he was on the ground, the pig fans cheered. Bunch of . I got one stat for all piggy fans...

55-21 Horns lead the all-time series!

Hook 'em

Sounded like Eagle fans didn't it? I'm surprised the announcers didn't make a bigger deal about the guy wrenching Young's ankle. Hell, even my wife was hollering at the guy.

Roughneck · 09-12-2004

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Originally Posted by jamez25

the sideline reporter said he had a fractured ankle....probably gone for the year. that sux !!!

Hopefully Hardeman can get his act together and grades in order. I'm not sure how good I feel about having a True Frosh (Ramonce Taylor) as our 2nd string RB, no matter how fast he is.

SuspectCorner · 09-12-2004

vince young, reggie mcneil, etc... does anybody remember when college QBs were slow but nimble, willing to stay in the pocket, looking to find the open receiver rather than "create". they could make the basic throws so few young pros seem able to anymore. guess they went the way of the basketball player who can shoot the open "j" and make 75% of their free-throws. oftentimes "spectacular athleticism" translates to "don't know what the hayull they're doin'." just a dinosaurs' opinion.

jterrell · 09-12-2004

I actually moved Matt Jones up my drfat board. I think he is a legit day 2 QB now. He needs osme seasoning obviously but he has the ability and heart to be an NFL winner. His size, speed combo is fierce. He reminds me alot of Culpepper. UT has one of the faster defenses in the nation and he outrun them all night.

Derrick Johnson is obviously a top 5-7 player in the draft and Cedric Benson won't be far behind. The best future pro on that field tho was Rod Wright the big DT, 90. He is gonna be a monster at the next level.

I think Vince Young is a little more of the athlete learning QB than Matt Jones.

jterrell · 09-12-2004

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Originally Posted by tothewhipbill

vince young, reggie mcneil, etc... does anybody remember when college QBs were slow but nimble, willing to stay in the pocket, looking to find the open receiver rather than "create". they could make the basic throws so few young pros seem able to anymore. guess they went the way of the basketball player who can shoot the open "j" and make 75% of their free-throws. oftentimes "spectacular athleticism" translates to "don't know what the hayull they're doin'." just a dinosaurs' opinion.

When we were debating types of QB back in the day here I always pointed out athletic QBs would prevail because that is where high schools and colleges awere headed. QBs need alifetime of training and now athletes are getting it not just would be linemen who are bigger than everybody else as it was 20 years ago.

With the arms on the guys last night you can;t argue against them at QB at all. Vince Yuong has as arm as good as Troy Aikman did at UCLA. I'd say he lacked a lot of Troy's smarts but Troy wasn't that great at UCLA. Not like he was after a year and a half as a pro anyways.

As an offensive coordinator or coach I would want a guy who can make all the throws but also who gave me the plays Jones or Young did last night with their feet as well. Neither team would have been in the game had their QB not been able to move extremely well. Both teams graduated their WR corps.

ghst187 · 09-12-2004

I was wondering how Rod Wright did in the game. AFN didn't broadcast the game. I'm anxious to see him play this year. I hope we have our eyes on him for the draft.

There's just something about Benson that troubles me. Its as if he has the talent to be great if he wants to be, but he just doesn't always feel like it. Plus, he rolls it up against the patsies and disappears against the strong teams.

Vince Young is exciting to watch run, like Vick, but doesn't seem to have much of a clue as to how to play QB. Both he and Vick are handcuffed in their QB development by their eagerness to take off running. Plus, running means taking hits and taking hits = injuries. Niether Vick nor Young will play in every game this year I'm afraid.

I think OU is going to hang 50 on UT yet again,...in yet another sound tail kicking....mack brown, officially owned.