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Old 03-19-2007   #16
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i like everything i've heard about bowe. after watching this video he reminds me of crayton. i'm not sure if we need another crayton type but i think he's a good player


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Old 03-19-2007   #17
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I think this guy could become a big time possession receiver. I like him over Meacham, Ginn, and Jarrett. Speedy receivers are easier to come by than possession receivers. Complement him with a speedy guy and you would have a pretty good receiving combo. I'm not sure he will be around at #22 though.
Well, either he or Meachem will be available I think. If not, there is also Sidney Rice, but I really would prefer someone else at that point or maybe a trade down.
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Old 03-19-2007   #18
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i like everything i've heard about bowe. after watching this video he reminds me of crayton. i'm not sure if we need another crayton type but i think he's a good player
He's quite a bit bigger than Crayton. He's 2 inches and about 16 lbs bigger. Crayton seems to gumby his way out of tackles. Bowe seems like he knocks you over. Guess that may change in the Pros. I also think Bowe's probably faster than Crayton, but I'm not positive. I'll try to find Crayton's combine numbers.

By the way, I'm a big Crayton fan and think he's the #2 of the future. I just think there are definitely better guys out there.


EDIT - Crayton wasn't invited to the combine. Still looking...

EDIT2 - Crayton was 4.52 and 4.58 in the 40. Yeah, Bowe is bigger and faster.

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Old 03-19-2007   #19
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too slow
For the others that think he's slow, checkout the play at 0:46 on this highlight reel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvWf9-EN_g

Bowe is standing on the 32-1/2 yard line when the play starts at just before the 0:46 marker. He starts his route fast. At the 20 yard line he slows up as if to run an out route or a corner route, but quickly cuts back in to run a post. Russell throws the ball right at the 0:48 mark. At that point, Bowe slows his route (because the ball is thrown behind him), and crosses the goalline while catching the ball at the 0:50 market -- while the deep safety is several steps behind.

Thus, he ran about a 30-35 yard route, in which he intentionally slows to 1/2 (or 3/4) speed on two separate occasions, in just over 4 seconds, leaving the deep safety bewildered and abused. That's not slow.

If that's not enough, check out the play at 1:33. You won't see Keyshawn or the like making these types of plays.
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Like the idea of a possession receiver comin in to back up TO and keep him on his toes, he cant make too much of a fuss if he knows that his future replacement is on the sideline everygame just waiting to make an impact.
And hes fast just blows by a couple of corners on some plays.

ALso I agree with some of the other posts big time possession go-to receivers are the core to a good passing game rather than speedy guys who can stretch the field. He runs tough and seems to have quite crisp routes for a big guy wouldnt mind seeing him on draft day if we dont go Defence AGAIN.
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For the others that think he's slow, checkout the play at 0:46 on this highlight reel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvWf9-EN_g

Bowe is standing on the 32-1/2 yard line when the play starts at just before the 0:46 marker. He starts his route fast. At the 20 yard line he slows up as if to run an out route or a corner route, but quickly cuts back in to run a post. Russell throws the ball right at the 0:48 mark. At that point, Bowe slows his route (because the ball is thrown behind him), and crosses the goalline while catching the ball at the 0:50 market -- while the deep safety is several steps behind.

Thus, he ran about a 30-35 yard route, in which he intentionally slows to 1/2 (or 3/4) speed on two separate occasions, in just over 4 seconds, leaving the deep safety bewildered and abused. That's not slow.

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No offense, but that's the last example I'd use of speed. The safety took an awful, lazy read on the play and guessed wrong. Then there was no one else in the middle. That was just a terrible defensive breakdown more than anything great that Bowe did.
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C'mon you know the E-Girls are going to snatch him before us like they do every year when we have a quality pick about to fall to us..
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I think this kid is a little overrated.


Meachem or Hill, please.
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C'mon you know the E-Girls are going to snatch him before us like they do every year when we have a quality pick about to fall to us..
Pretty sure we pick before the Iggles this year, cap'n.
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No offense, but that's the last example I'd use of speed. The safety took an awful, lazy read on the play and guessed wrong. Then there was no one else in the middle. That was just a terrible defensive breakdown more than anything great that Bowe did.
You missed the point. The safety's horrible play on the ball was incidental. He didn't outrun anyone in the play, of course, but that wasn't the point. My post was about looking at his "in game" speed, and that play clearly showed it.
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Bowe is going to be a solid or very good WR.

He runs great routes and has good hands. That is the makings of a good WR.

What strikes me about watching his highlight reel is how many times he had to make big adjustments to the ball: behind him, way high, low, etc.

Mr. #1 draft pick sure didn't throw very many nice passes on that highlight reel. He threw a couple awesome passes, but the majority of them show Bowe's ability to adjust to the ball even though Bowe is running very good routes.
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If you want a deep threat at #22 you draft Meachem or Ginn(too early for Rice).

If you want a tough over the middle chain mover that's great in the redzone, you draft Bowe. He never broke 1000 yards in college but his TD production was good.IMO he's a poor man's TO. Drops a few because he body catches and he's not a tremendous deep threat with average quickness are his knocks. Is most often compared to Key and that's probably a fair comparison. He's worthy at #22 if for no other reason than we could kick TO to the curb after 2007 if he acts the fool.
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Bowe is going to be a solid or very good WR.

He runs great routes and has good hands. That is the makings of a good WR.

What strikes me about watching his highlight reel is how many times he had to make big adjustments to the ball: behind him, way high, low, etc.

Mr. #1 draft pick sure didn't throw very many nice passes on that highlight reel. He threw a couple awesome passes, but the majority of them show Bowe's ability to adjust to the ball even though Bowe is running very good routes.
Are you watching this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvWf9-EN_g

???? There are numerous nice throws through traffic and I can only counted a couple that were off-target (and even those weren't very bad).
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Pretty sure we pick before the Iggles this year, cap'n.
Pretty sure we did the year they jumped in front of us and grabbed S. Andrews, too.
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If you want a deep threat at #22 you draft Meachem or Ginn(too early for Rice).

If you want a tough over the middle chain mover that's great in the redzone, you draft Bowe. He never broke 1000 yards in college but his TD production was good.IMO he's a poor man's TO. Drops a few because he body catches and he's not a tremendous deep threat with average quickness are his knocks. Is most often compared to Key and that's probably a fair comparison. He's worthy at #22 if for no other reason than we could kick TO to the curb after 2007 if he acts the fool.
I like Meachem alot. I would be very happy if we drafted him. I've never seen him play, so it's hard for me to compare except by the production and combine numbers. I have seen Bowe play, which is why I'm more enamoured with him. Also, he was a stud at the Senior Bowl, which shows he can compete against top talent. Usually that's a decent indicator of how you will play in the NFL, not always. I think Ware's Senior Bowl work put him solidly on our radar. That, and I suspect the Cowboys knew Merrimen was going to flip his agents to the Postons and lost interest (or was in Rosen?).
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