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06-29-2007
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#31
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Right Kind of Guy
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Originally Posted by nyc
I agree 100%. He outclasses college because of his speed. Well, in the NFL you MUST have more than just speed. He doesn't.
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He has the best stiff arm I have seen since Walter Payton and that does play well in the NFL.
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06-29-2007
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#32
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Butt Monkey
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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We should trade down and get two ones next year and two ones the year after.
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06-29-2007
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#33
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Banned
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Originally Posted by nyc
Once he hits the NFL he won't. NFL != College. VERY FEW college players every see the light of day in the NFL. This is why so many great college players never make it in the NFL.
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McFadden has the speed and power that will translate over to the NFL well..
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06-29-2007
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#34
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Unfriendly and Aloof!
Joined: | May 2006 |
Location: | Betelgeuse |
Posts: | 30,975 |
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Originally Posted by Stephen Colboar
Just saw this before I hit the search button.
He's the strongest back I've seen in the SEC in a while. Don't be distracted by his speed. He runs over people, too.
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Watch the Adrian Peterson highlights on YouTube then compare them to McFadden. When McFadden makes contact, he WILL go down. Peterson would bull over guys and run away dragging them until they let go.
Don't take my word for it. Go see for your self. He goes down after contact. Then watch Adrian Peterson. Now, after watching those. Think about how that is going to translate to the NFL where the players are much faster and they don't miss many tackles because it will mean their job.
Formerly the notorious nyc!
I've got more red flags than Soviet Russia!
There is a good chance that you don't like me, but there is a better chance that I don't care.
If I'm not insulting you, I'm probably not aware that you exist.
Jerry Jones in the draft room is suicide on the football field. The line of scrimmage is EVERYTHING. Something Jerry doesn't understand.
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06-29-2007
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#35
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Unfriendly and Aloof!
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Originally Posted by Hostile
He has the best stiff arm I have seen since Walter Payton and that does play well in the NFL.
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LAIR!!!
Formerly the notorious nyc!
I've got more red flags than Soviet Russia!
There is a good chance that you don't like me, but there is a better chance that I don't care.
If I'm not insulting you, I'm probably not aware that you exist.
Jerry Jones in the draft room is suicide on the football field. The line of scrimmage is EVERYTHING. Something Jerry doesn't understand.
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06-29-2007
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#36
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2006 |
Location: | Arkansas |
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Originally Posted by nyc
SEC != NFL.  I don't know how many times it must be said. 
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Dude you can say that about every prospect that has ever came out of college. The only argument you're making is "college isn't as tough as the NFL, so he won't be as good." People questioned if Peyton Manning would be a good NFL QB when he was coming out. If you think the only thing DMac has is speed then you don't watch him play. He's fast and he's strong and on top of that he's a good blocker, watch some of the blocks he puts on people when they ran the Wildcat formation last year. If you don't like him fine, but come up with something a little better than "nfl is tougher than college."
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06-29-2007
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#37
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Houston, Texas |
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Originally Posted by nyc
What Adrian Peterson highlights on YouTube then compare them to McFadden. When McFadden makes contact, he WILL go down. Peterson would bull over guys and run away dragging them until they let go.
Don't take my word for it. Go see for your self. He goes down after contact. Then watch Adrian Peterson. Now, after watching those. Think about how that is going to translate to the NFL where the players are much faster and they don't miss many tackles because it will mean their job.
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Peterson has already been drafted what does he have to do with anything. As for McFadden if you watch the game and not just some highlight reel you may find out that you really don't know what you’re talking about. McFadden has good strength and speed and being a young man his body will continue to develop.
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06-29-2007
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#38
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Banned
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Originally Posted by Doomsday101
Peterson has already been drafted what does he have to do with anything. As for McFadden if you watch the game and not just some highlight reel you may find out that you really don't know what you’re talking about. McFadden has good strength and speed and being a young man his body will continue to develop.
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It's NO use, people that don't like a player will disect them to pieces.. McFadden has plenty of power and lord knows plenty of speed.
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06-29-2007
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#39
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Unfriendly and Aloof!
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Originally Posted by adamknite
The only argument you're making is "college isn't as tough as the NFL, so he won't be as good."
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This is not true. I never *only* made that statement. I gave my reason and I'm ready to sit back and stand by my prediction till fruition.
If the Cowboys draft him and he takes Emmitt's spot as the NFL's All-Time leading rusher and second in TDs; then good for him and the Cowboys. I just don't think it's going to happen. Period.
Formerly the notorious nyc!
I've got more red flags than Soviet Russia!
There is a good chance that you don't like me, but there is a better chance that I don't care.
If I'm not insulting you, I'm probably not aware that you exist.
Jerry Jones in the draft room is suicide on the football field. The line of scrimmage is EVERYTHING. Something Jerry doesn't understand.
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06-29-2007
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#40
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jul 2005 |
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Nobody said he was going to be Adrian Peterson. But you cant teach speed, quickness, and moves. He has every Cowboy running back beat in all 3 categories so i will gladly take Mr. Overrated. 
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06-29-2007
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#41
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Unfriendly and Aloof!
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Originally Posted by ThreeSportStar80
It's NO use, people that don't like a player will disect them to pieces.. McFadden has plenty of power and lord knows plenty of speed.
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I don't dislike McFadden. I see what I see. It's business not personal. I love football and I call it like I see it.
Formerly the notorious nyc!
I've got more red flags than Soviet Russia!
There is a good chance that you don't like me, but there is a better chance that I don't care.
If I'm not insulting you, I'm probably not aware that you exist.
Jerry Jones in the draft room is suicide on the football field. The line of scrimmage is EVERYTHING. Something Jerry doesn't understand.
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06-29-2007
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#42
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Moderator
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The one thing that worries me about this back is that I haven't seen him run with a lot of wiggle. Typically, he's a one cut back and he's a little bit upright, at times.
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06-29-2007
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#43
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Unfriendly and Aloof!
Joined: | May 2006 |
Location: | Betelgeuse |
Posts: | 30,975 |
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Originally Posted by stilltheguru
Nobody said he was going to be Adrian Peterson. But you cant teach speed, quickness, and moves. He has every Cowboy running back beat in all 3 categories so i will gladly take Mr. Overrated. 
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Amen. That I believe and support.
Formerly the notorious nyc!
I've got more red flags than Soviet Russia!
There is a good chance that you don't like me, but there is a better chance that I don't care.
If I'm not insulting you, I'm probably not aware that you exist.
Jerry Jones in the draft room is suicide on the football field. The line of scrimmage is EVERYTHING. Something Jerry doesn't understand.
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06-29-2007
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#44
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Junior Member
Joined: | Jun 2007 |
Location: | Little Rock, AR |
Posts: | 24 |
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Originally Posted by nyc
He is very fast, but the wind can blow him over.
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nyc, correct me if I am putting words in your mouth, but of all the posts you've made on McFadden... I thought that comment kind of summed it up.
Honestly, I'm kind of floored that anyone could come to that conclusion about McFadden. I really can't argue your analysis though, because you just have to see it. Only a few of the highlight reels on youtube show it, but this is for two reasons: 1.) He really has had that many plays where he outruns SEC defenders (which BTW, produces a lot of NFL defensive talent). He is simply untouched. 2.) Because defenses put a lot of guys in the box, if a big hole is opened up and he gets to that second zone, no one is really in position to catch him.
Arkansas uses Felix Jones as a change of pace guy and he is kind of like a Dave Chappelle-Julius Jones love child. (just look at his media photo and you'll get the Chappelle reference)
Also, you questioned his catching ability. That remains to be seen, because Arkansas just doesn't throw to their backs any. You'll see a screen here and there, but I've yet to see him disappoint on any of those.
Just watch him play more. He is a physical specimen, and I guaran-damn-tee you the wind does not blow him over. You can say that about his teammate Felix, but damn sure not McFadden.
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06-29-2007
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#45
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Banned
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Location: | Mid Atlantic |
Posts: | 27,093 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nyc
This is not true. I never *only* made that statement. I gave my reason and I'm ready to sit back and stand by my prediction till fruition.
If the Cowboys draft him and he takes Emmitt's spot as the NFL's All-Time leading rusher and second in TDs; then good for him and the Cowboys. I just don't think it's going to happen. Period.
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You sound like a Giants fan...
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