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Gonhoz · 07-07-2007

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cowboyjoe · 07-07-2007

thanks gonhoz, if we do sign him, at least know what he looks like etc, doesnt look to big though,

Future · 07-07-2007

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Originally Posted by jterrell

I've done 335 as a max but that was weighing 205.

Right now being old(35 lol) and out of shape I can do 255 or so weighing 200.

oh yea, I weigh 280 and have maxed out at 260

dont hit the floor when your jaw drops

AbeBeta · 07-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Hostile

When I played I was tempted to take them. I mean really tempted. I saw the results and wondered.

I never did try them, but I'd be lying if I said I am above it because had I not got hurt I probably would have.

They weren't illegal then though were they? I think the NFL adopted a policy in 1989 - in a situation like that how can you blame any player for using? Here's something that can make you better physically.

What was the sense back then? Did folks know they were doing something wrong -- was it seen as cheating?

Hostile · 07-07-2007

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Originally Posted by abersonc

They weren't illegal then though were they? I think the NFL adopted a policy in 1989 - in a situation like that how can you blame any player for using? Here's something that can make you better physically.

What was the sense back then? Did folks know they were doing something wrong -- was it seen as cheating?

It was 1986 and everyone already knew it was wrong. Plus I was in college not the pros, so they were illegal.

The drug of choice at that time was dianabol. To my knowledge dianabol has never been legal in any form.

Guys used to inject between their toes to hide the track marks if they thought trainers were on to them.

I think what kept me away more than anything was I do not like needles.

Niland76 · 07-07-2007

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Originally Posted by cowboyjoe

yeah, but this kid is like 20 years old best I know of, time to grow into more size, and even at that, with a 352 bench press at 20 years old or so, is still pretty good, so was just wondering if anyone has seen him play,

Didn't Anthony Spencer bench nearly 500 lbs at Purdue?

A bench press of 352 seems a little light for a D-Lineman to me

Star4Ever · 07-07-2007

I don't know what Spencer benched, but I do know that Larry Allen benched over 700 lbs. How can a D-lineman (a NT nonetheless) that doesn't even bench 400 go up against guys similar to Allen. Don't get me wrong, no player in the NFL is as strong as LA, but there are some extremely powerful offensive linemen out there.

Bob Sacamano · 07-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Hostile

It was 1986 and everyone already knew it was wrong. Plus I was in college not the pros, so they were illegal.

The drug of choice at that time was dianabol. To my knowledge dianabol has never been legal in any form.

Guys used to inject between their toes to hide the track marks if they thought trainers were on to them.

I think what kept me away more than anything was I do not like needles.

that's a good reason, I can't stand the thought of needles being poked into me

stealth · 07-08-2007

I will say it is important to remember that the core of your body strength isn't in your arms.

but ya 350 at his weight is weak sauce, but if he can squat a ton then he is a beast, mjority of push is from the legs and He won't face too many 350 plus o linemen, so he might not be as bad as we all are pretending. Bench press is cute for bragging rights but grand scheme its not all that accurate as a measure of overall strength.

Star4Ever · 07-08-2007

It's true that a person's bench press alone isn't an all-telling stat regarding his overall strength. However, it is an indicator of how hard he works and his potential. I just find it hard to believe that a NT can't bench more than that and be very successful in the NFL. Not a definite, but an indicator.

AbeBeta · 07-08-2007

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Originally Posted by Hostile

It was 1986 and everyone already knew it was wrong. Plus I was in college not the pros, so they were illegal.

The drug of choice at that time was dianabol. To my knowledge dianabol has never been legal in any form.

Guys used to inject between their toes to hide the track marks if they thought trainers were on to them.

I think what kept me away more than anything was I do not like needles.

Lemme ask -- was there testing then? I'm not trying to question your character here -- just interested in what the situation was at the time. If there was no testing, I can't see how some 20 year old kid could be expected to keep away.

BTW - The governor of my state is an admitted user of dianabol.

Hostile · 07-08-2007

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Originally Posted by abersonc

Lemme ask -- was there testing then? I'm not trying to question your character here -- just interested in what the situation was at the time. If there was no testing, I can't see how some 20 year old kid could be expected to keep away.

BTW - The governor of my state is an admitted user of dianabol.

Yes, there was testing, but I never took a test because it was only done during the season, not the off season, and I got hurt in the off season. It was in its infancy for steroids I believe and I honestly think coaches from just about every program knew they had players using and turned a blind eye to it.

I remember someone telling me "you must love playing for a clean program." My response was, "what's clean about it?" I didn't say that tongue in cheek. I knew who Dr. Feelgood for the team was. I just didn't use his "services." Everyone knew.

I believe they now test even in the off season so it is much harder for guys to cycle their use. I could be wrong about that though. I honestly am not sure. There are also so many undetectable drugs now that the Feds aren't on to. If there hadn't been a sample from someone inside Balco I doubt those drugs could be screened. I seriously doubt Balco is the only synthetic producing supplier.

With regards to 20 year olds governing themselves I will simply say this. Most schools do have you sign a conduct policy and those policies generally outline what will not be tolerated and drug use from legal and illegal drugs is specified. Players know what is right and wrong.

Silverstar · 07-08-2007

I think our future NT is already on the team. I'd like to see Jay Ratliff take over for Ferguson in 2008. He's already got good size for the position at 6-4 305. I think Phillips should give him plenty of snaps this preseason and see how he handles it. I don't have much confidence in Stanley and I'd hate to use a high pick on a NT next year.

Here's Ratliff sacking Brunell last year.

eduncan22 · 07-08-2007

Hindsight is 20-20...BUT...

we should have drafted someone in the 4th round ....

We gotta get one more season out of Ferg.

CowboyStar88 · 07-08-2007

i have jeff's number.