Don't Tase Me Bro!

[Danny White]

http://www.local10.com/news/14138122...s=mia&psp=news

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- A University of Florida student was Tasered and arrested after trying to ask U.S. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., about the 2004 election and other subjects during a campus forum.

Videos of the incident posted on several Web sites show officers pulling Andrew Meyer, 21, away from the microphone after he asks Kerry about impeaching President George W. Bush and whether he and Bush were both members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University.

The video is pretty intense.

The guy was clearly a little over the top, but he didn't seem that out of control.

[vta]

Funny I just came from CNN watching this.
Yeah pretty extreme. What's up with the state of freedom of speech these days? The guy wasn't getting out of hand with his questioning of Kerry.

[Crown Royal]

the guy was a tool, but he didn't anything that warranted arrest. That was uncalled for.

[Ben_n_austin]

Originally Posted by vta

Funny I just came from CNN watching this.
Yeah pretty extreme. What's up with the state of freedom of speech these days? The guy wasn't getting out of hand with his questioning of Kerry.

I don't know. But it's disgusting.

I would have liked to hear Kerry answer those questions. In hindsight, I think that questioner was on to something.

I voted for Kerry. He wasn't my first choice, but I do think that he and Bush have intimate political ties that still hold deep today. That wasn't my view when I voted for him. I blame the mainstream media and my past gullibility for this... lol

The more and more info. I get, the more disgusted I become with both parties.

I'm going to go throw up now, after witnessing that.

Thanks for sharing that, Danny.

[Ben_n_austin]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

the guy was a tool, but he didn't anything that warranted arrest. That was uncalled for.

The guy was seeking truth from a politician--hardly a tool.

[jterrell]

tasers rock!!!

lol.

Remind me not to ever attend any political speech because I am sure they'd just shoot me.

My first question": Whose personal political are you?

[Danny White]

More video:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717&p=1

You can tell at the end, the guy has a couple screws loose "they're going to take me away and kill me" but nevertheless I think his treatment was very heavy-handed.

I used to work for a group that held a lot of events at college campuses where prominent (and sometimes controversial) politicians and public figures would speak, and there were always guys like this who had their own agendas when it came time to ask a question, but that doesn't mean they needed to be tasered and dragged away in handcuffs. Turning off their mic is usually sufficient, and that's what they did and that's how they should have left it.

[Danny White]

Is it just me, or does this guy remind anyone else of Dane Cook?

[Ben_n_austin]

Originally Posted by jterrell

tasers rock!!!

lol.

Remind me not to ever attend any political speech because I am sure they'd just shoot me.

My first question": Whose personal political are you?

Seriously, this bears discussion. Other than his nervous composure, what did he do wrong? He was asking questions with direction... it's almost like those "cops" were Kerry's personal guards, guarding the public from the TRUTH!

Sure, Kerry would have lied... but at least let us hear the lie.

At this juncture, I am terribly happy that Kerry is not our President.

[Ben_n_austin]

Originally Posted by Danny White

More video:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717&p=1

You can tell at the end, the guy has a couple screws loose "they're going to take me away and kill me" but nevertheless I think his treatment was very heavy-handed.

I used to work for a group that held a lot of events at college campuses where prominent (and sometimes controversial) politicians and public figures would speak, and there were always guys like this who had their own agendas when it came time to ask a question, but that doesn't mean they needed to be tasered and dragged away in handcuffs. Turning off their mic is usually sufficient, and that's what they did and that's how they should have left it.

The guy has a right to know what he did wrong and what code he's being arrested under....

Blatant police/government corruption. "Inciting a riot"...

What a joke.... Good going Kerry.

[Danny White]

Originally Posted by AnyGivenSunday

Seriously, this bears discussion. Other than his nervous composure, what did he do wrong? He was asking questions with direction... it's almost like those "cops" were Kerry's personal guards, guarding the public from the TRUTH!

Sure, Kerry would have lied... but at least let us hear the lie.

At this juncture, I am terribly happy that Kerry is not our President.

He definitely could have asked his three questions in a more concise, less rambling, less manic fashion.

He had every indication of being one of "those guys" from the minute he opened his mouth... you know the kind I'm talking about... the kind who wants to hear himself talk and make "his point" much more than ask a question.

He also had three questions, on very different topics, he wanted answered. Which is very annoying in a forum like that.

Crown Royal is correct, the guy was a tool. But that doesn't mean he should be tasered and forcibly removed from the auditorium.

I have literally been to hundreds of events like this at college campuses, and there's a doofus like this at every single one of them, and never was it necessary to man-handle the doofus like they did here.

[Ben_n_austin]

Could Kerry have allowed the guy to continue questioning?

[Danny White]

Originally Posted by AnyGivenSunday

The guy has a right to know what he did wrong and what code he's being arrested under....

Blatant police/government corruption. "Inciting a riot"...

What a joke.... Good going Kerry.

I can't believe I'm defending John Kerry, but I doubt if he had anything to do with it. It looked like campus police to me.

Kerry, if anything, was trying to settle the situation down. Although I'm sure he probably didn't mind the cops looking out for his safety.


To answer your other question, I think Kerry would have been very out of place doing something to interfere with the campus police at that point. He is a Senator, but that doesn't give him any jurisdiction over them.

[Ben_n_austin]

Originally Posted by Danny White

He definitely could have asked his three questions in a more concise, less rambling, less manic fashion.

He had every indication of being one of "those guys" from the minute he opened his mouth... you know the kind I'm talking about... the kind who wants to hear himself talk and make "his point" much more than ask a question.

He also had three questions, on very different topics, he wanted answered. Which is very annoying in a forum like that.

Crown Royal is correct, the guy was a tool. But that doesn't mean he should be tasered and forcibly removed from the auditorium.

I have literally been to hundreds of events like this at college campuses, and there's a doofus like this at every single one of them, and never was it necessary to man-handle the doofus like they did here.

"those guys" is entirely subjective. If "that guy" is a U.S. citizen, he has rights that were clearly violated.


I disagree with what you think about the guy. He's a college kid asking questions. It's odd that those questions
could potentially shed more public light on who John Kerry really is. Of course, Bush was in the same fraternity, so this bodes well for neither party.

This was a flat out false arrest.... These controlled forums are exactly that, meant to control you. I think that guy might be a little upset about corruption and lies. It tends to p people off. Not to mention he's young, so he hasn't quite gotten the delivery thing down yet.

But if you're saying that you can arrest someone based on mannerisms, that's absurd. He wasn't DOING anything against the law... people were only THINKING about rioting when they saw the injustices of the police's actions.

[Ben_n_austin]

Originally Posted by Danny White

I can't believe I'm defending John Kerry, but I doubt if he had anything to do with it. It looked like campus police to me.

Kerry, if anything, was trying to settle the situation down. Although I'm sure he probably didn't mind the cops looking out for his safety.


To answer your other question, I think Kerry would have been very out of place doing something to interfere with the campus police at that point. He is a Senator, but that doesn't give him any jurisdiction over them.

You're right--probably campus police, but I notice that he didn't encourage the debate. True politicians, in the sense of integrity, get those kinds of guys...

He could have asked them to allow him to question and made the mere observation, as a U.S. Senator and attorney, and stated to the police that his rights were being violated.

He could have said something. He knows that better than anyone. That would have gained more respect from me for Kerry than anything I can think of.