1. Welcome to CowboysZone!  Join us!  Come on!  You know you want to!

1:24 on the clock

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by ConstantReboot, Oct 27, 2013.

  1. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

    2,252 Messages
    511 Likes Received
    There was 1:24 on the clock on first and 10. Any experienced coach would have taken the knee and try and run out the clock. But no not Garrett. He had to try and run it outside thus causing a holding penalty to be called on our tackle.

    Had we just ran out the clock like any smart coach would have done this game would have been over. This is a coaching blunder of massive proportion folks. This game in on Garrett pure and simple.
  2. Dale

    Dale Forum Architect

    4,820 Messages
    141 Likes Received
    I don't agree with the kneel-down notion. With Detroit still possessing a timeout and us out of field-goal range prior to Tanner's penalty-inducing run, three kneel downs would have still left the need to punt and roughly 30 seconds on the clock. Plus, a run play inherently takes a few extra seconds off the clock than a kneel down.

    With that said, I'm not surprised we found a way to muck it up. If anything, I'm surprised Tanner didn't find a way to run out of bounds on his run. Our situational football IQ remains incredibly suspect, lending to moments like those where Smith holds in a situation where seemingly his primary assignment is not to do just that.
    mmillman likes this.
  3. texbumthelife

    texbumthelife Well-Known Member

    3,211 Messages
    670 Likes Received
    On the previous drive, we left quite a bit of time on the clock on several plays. I already knew it was going to come back to bite us.
    Boyzmamacita and links18 like this.
  4. coult44

    coult44 Well-Known Member

    1,459 Messages
    755 Likes Received
    It's what I said immediately after first down...I looked at my wife and said "he's about to lose it for us". I knew he was just that dumb!!!
  5. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

    5,238 Messages
    288 Likes Received
    so the clock stopped and we replayed the down which we then rn the ball and the clock kept running and Detroit used a timeout. I don't see your point here. There was no differnece
  6. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

    2,114 Messages
    1,096 Likes Received
    This is the kind of nonsense i'm talking about.

    Kneel down?

    Concede the off chance of getting a 1st down?

    Silly.

    We don't get that hold and the Lions have 20 seconds to drive for a TD.

    But it's Garret's fault.

    Went on the road against a good team...dropped 30 on their head...lose on a last minute drive that doesn't occur if not for a holding call.

    And heck i'm not a blame the ref kind of guy. But I won't lie. Was furious on that Scandrik PI....which was the same exact situation that occurred earlier in the day when the refs picked up the flag.

    But whatever. Blame Garret. Let's get another coach. Start all over. Hey let's switch defensive and offensive schemes while we are at it. And then in the 3 years it takes to get personnel in place let's start over!
    Common Sense likes this.
  7. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

    5,238 Messages
    288 Likes Received
    yeah i didn't understand at 2.30 why we passed and got an incomplete when we should have ran it there to make detroit burn another timeout before the 2 minute
  8. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

    2,252 Messages
    511 Likes Received
    Running the ball was the right thing to do. But running it outside was just dumb. There is a chance that the ball could be stripped.
  9. tecolote

    tecolote Well-Known Member

    1,789 Messages
    552 Likes Received
    It was 3rd and 14 with 1:14 on the clock at the 35, let's say Tony takes the ball back some 10 yards to the 45 and kneels down taking some 7 or 8 seconds off the clock, that leaves 1:07 plus the 40 (you take the delay of game) that leaves 27 seconds before the punt. Say the punt takes 6 seconds and you leave Detroit at the 20 at best with 21 seconds without a TO. thats the ball game right there.

    All we needed to win was for our QB to take a knee, how sad is that.
    cml750, BigStar, calico and 10 others like this.
  10. Ender

    Ender Well-Known Member

    1,412 Messages
    209 Likes Received
    They didn't have a time out
  11. Ender

    Ender Well-Known Member

    1,412 Messages
    209 Likes Received
    Thats why Jason Garrett is awful in a nut shell
  12. links18

    links18 Well-Known Member

    9,185 Messages
    1,112 Likes Received
    Players have to be coached up that the one thing you can't do there is get a penalty.
  13. Plankton

    Plankton Well-Known Member

    1,906 Messages
    597 Likes Received
    The playcalling was not the issue. It rarely is.

    The issue was twofold:
    1. This team cannot gain any tough yards on the ground when they absolutely have to. The offensive line as a group still cannot run block well.
    2. Tyron Smith committed a completely brain dead penalty.
    Couple this with no pass rush on defense, and Scandrick allowing Kris Durham to get behind him for 40 yards, and you have the recipe for a defeat.
    BIGDen and StarBoyz83 like this.
  14. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

    22,656 Messages
    2,029 Likes Received
    Not possible with the time remaining and timeouts.
  15. Cowboy4ever

    Cowboy4ever Well-Known Member

    2,086 Messages
    80 Likes Received
    Name one coach, at any level, that you have seen do that in that situation. I played for 14 years, coached afew more and never missed a game the boys have played in the last 39 years and I have never seen any coach do that, ever. Every coach in the nfl would have done the same exact thing and to say otherwise is stupid. Blame the players for not executing, that is where the problem is. Good grief, Smith has to know not to hold on that play, thats not coaching, thats a player that is just ********.
  16. CowboyMcCoy

    CowboyMcCoy Business is a Boomin

    12,749 Messages
    234 Likes Received
    As have been several games in past seasons. Your ideal coach shouldn't shoot the team in its foot.
  17. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

    2,114 Messages
    1,096 Likes Received
    Kneel down...I mean I can't believe the OP made this thread...then you had some guy tell his wife we should have taken a knee.

    I hope she corrected him.
  18. Nirvana

    Nirvana Well-Known Member

    3,647 Messages
    785 Likes Received
    I'd put the game on Smith for the stupid holding penalty before I put it on Garrett for the play calling in that scenario.
    pancakeman likes this.
  19. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

    2,252 Messages
    511 Likes Received
    Who said we need a first down? All we need to do was run out as much time on the clock as possible. Then we can punt the ball. No one said that we need a 1st down.
  20. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

    5,238 Messages
    288 Likes Received
    the OP is wrong, it was 3rd down and no timeouts. I agree should have been a kneel down and let the time run down and then kick the FG

Share This Page