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1:24 on the clock

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by ConstantReboot, Oct 27, 2013.

  1. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    I debated with myself about kneeling it down right there but I felt like getting closer to field goal range was more important.

    I don't disagree with the run.

    I disagree with the official waiting to call holding after Tanner was 5 yards past Smith just so they could make the game interesting.
  2. calico

    calico Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. I couldn't believe redball didn't call the qb kneel there to run most of the time off the clock.
  3. links18

    links18 Well-Known Member

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    I am agnostic on the kneel down. I suppose the logic is to prevent a possible turnover or ticky tack penalty, but there is really no excuse for the blatant hold Tyron committed. Don't give the refs an excuse to prolong the game. Someone needed to get in the players' heads prior to that series to make sure that didn't happen.
  4. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    Why do people keep saying they ran the ball outside? It didn't look like an outside run to me at all. It looked like Tanner bounced it outside, which made Smith's hold look more obvious. If Tanner keeps running into the correct hole then maybe the refs don't see the hold.
  5. Fritsch_the_cat

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    Don't know, I also don't know why people keep saying punt when they were in easy field goal range.

    They had three plays to get 10 yards, if they had, they could have then took a knee and ran out the rest of the clock. That's what they were trying to do, but failed.

    Kneeling would have been a good alternative, they would still have two downs to run most of the time off the clock.

    If either had been done effectively, the Cowboys most likely win.
  6. WV Cowboy

    WV Cowboy Waitin' on the 6th

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    I am tired of seeing us, and most other teams as well I guess, .. get all scared and play not to lose in that situation. Why not try to make a first down in any fashion that the defense is giving you.

    If they stack the line, throw a short pass, ... if they play pass, run the middle.

    Try to get the first down !! If we keep getting first downs, guess what?? The other team never gets a chance to beat our defense.

    I always know when I am figuring how much time is left, timeouts, etc. .. that we will run three times and kick, .. every single time !!

    I would rather fail "trying to win", than fail "trying not to lose."
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  7. links18

    links18 Well-Known Member

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    Remember 2006 vs. the undefeated Colts? Protecting a lead and needing to kill the clock Parcells/Payton called a roll out pass to a TE for a First down. Ever seen such a thing from this group?
  8. tecolote

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    In that situation, coming off a timeout, the HC has to tell the RB to keep it simple, yards were not important at that point, just time. If he was going to call a run, Garrett should have told Tanner to just go into the pile, try to milk the clock as much as possible and to go down. I would bet my life he did nor do that.
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  9. WV Cowboy

    WV Cowboy Waitin' on the 6th

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    Sadly, .. no.

    Too scared that they might make a mistake, so they do everything by the book. Never thinking outside the box.

    A few years ago, WV had the chance to upset Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. We had jumped out to a 28-0 lead, but throughout the game they had battled back.
    They had it down to a one score game, and we were forced to punt. Our Defense was worn out, .. it looked like they would score in the last minute and win the game.

    WV faked the punt, picked up the first down and held on for the win.

    They were thinking outside the box, took a chance, .. it paid off and they won the game.
    To this day I still believe that if we had punted that Georgia would have gone down and scored to win. They had all of the momentum at that time.
  10. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    I think they should have gone for it on 4th down myself. The benefit from a FG was not that big as shown and the possibility of a 4th down slant pass for a first down was high in my view.
  11. WV Cowboy

    WV Cowboy Waitin' on the 6th

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    True.

    Or even try that on an earlier down, .. say maybe first down. What a great idea, .. try to actually pick up the first down. Now there is an idea.
  12. CanadianCowboysFan

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    People are also forgetting the 3rd down call before the two minute warning. We saved the Lions a timeout which they graciously used after they turned it over on downs. Without that timeout, we go into victory formation at the end and win the game.
  13. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    So, Dallas should have gone for it on 4th down late, but should not have passed for it on 3rd down the series earlier? Seems like know matter what they did you would say do the opposite.
  14. rcaldw

    rcaldw Well-Known Member

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    You are right, but of course you will get shouted down or ignored.

    I do blame Garrett for one thing. There comes a time that you rip into a referee like nobody's business and the time was the Scandrick call. If the first one gets picked up then that one HAS TO GET PICKED UP. He is way to calm when we get absolutely ripped off. To be calm as a rule is right. To explode on occasion is necessary. In fact I think it is time for the Cowboys as an organization to point out how uneven the officiating has been against us lately.
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  15. CanadianCowboysFan

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    not at all

    the 4th down call wouldn't matter if incomplete and the clock stops on change of possession anyway. On 3rd down, it was 3rd and very long, unlikely to get it, better to force them to burn a timeout at that juncture.
  16. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    And you have no idea if a run was called, but checked out of by Romo.
  17. CanadianCowboysFan

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    Oh yes I do because if it had been, Garrett would have made sure the entire world knew.
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  18. jobberone

    jobberone Right turn Clyde Staff Member

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    Well in retrospect more time would have been run off if they had known ahead of time someone was going to commit a stupid penalty on 3rd down but no one is clairvoyant so you can throw that out the window. He did what you should do. The only criticism is he didn't go for it on 4th down which most coaches wouldn't do either although he should have strongly considered it. The safe bet is to make them get the ball into the end zone by putting your defense on the field. They should have at least made it more interesting than 4 plays. :(
  19. Ultra Warrior

    Ultra Warrior 6 Million Light-years beyond believability.

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    BS. You don't HOLD on the play, the HOLD doesn't happen.
  20. jimnabby

    jimnabby Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, just don't see it. The benefit of the field goal is huge, 30+ yards of field position required. And we were 3-13 on third-down conversions on the game. Worse, we converted a 3rd-and-1, a 3rd-and-3, and a single 3rd-and-5. Meanwhile, we failed on a 3rd-and-2, a 3rd-and-5, and three different 3rd-and-6s. In my view, based on the numbers and what I'd seen throughout the game, the possibility for a conversion was not high at all.

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