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1/27 Mock

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by robert70x7, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. funkytown

    funkytown Well-Known Member

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    Good mock.

    Not sure I would go Ansah in the 1st. Would rather have Shariff Floyd or Jonathan Cooper in that spot

    I'm also in the Honey Badger camp, but I dont think the Cowboys touch him. This guy will not make it to the 6th. Someone will grab him in the 4th/5th.
  2. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    That's what I was thinking.
  3. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    Unfortunately, they have Livings and Bernadeau tied up... Center and Right Tackle were worse than both of those last year, IMHO.
  4. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    That's why mocks this early are half-full. No one knows what is going to happen with free agency, and I'm not going to mock Jairus Byrd to us because 75% of CZ will jump on me saying we don't have the cap room.
  5. Boys122

    Boys122 Well-Known Member

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    There's been a lot of good mocks. I'd love this draft as well. Not too thrilled about corner though. Let's add more OL depth or DL depth.
  6. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I think some of you are forgetting how little Mathieu is.
    The guy is 5' 9", yet only runs a 4.51.
    Charles Tillman, for example, was 5 inches taller and 20 lbs heavier...and just as fast
  7. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    money
  8. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    Not just that but he was about the 5th best pure cover guy at LSU. SEC teams actually beat him when he had to cover.

    He was amazing on blitzes however.

    Useful player who is probably an NFL safety. Height isn't an issue for me if a guy makes plays.

    But his off-field stuff is just too much. Very hard to get kicked off LSU's team. We've seen guys do tons worse and make it back. The Honey Badger couldn't. This kid is clearly "about that life".

    Pass, unless it is a very late pick.
  9. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    Money isn't an issue.
  10. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    yes, it darn sure is.

    we can't pay spencer what he's worth if he is a SOLB.

    our SOLB will make a couple mil per year at most, not 8-10.
  11. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    I don't think he means that we can't do it... he means it wouldn't be smart to do it.

    SLB in Monte Kiffin's scheme isn't a position that you throw big money at. It is easy to fill that position, and for all intents and purposes, it is never filled with a guy who is the size of Kiffin's DE's. Those are smaller, athletic guys with change of direction skills and who excel in coverage.

    If we pay Spencer, he will be the SDE.
  12. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

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    :hammer:
  13. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Nice mock Robert!

    A lot of thought put into it.

    But I agree with the other folks, that Spencer would either be a 4-3 DE or not be on the team.

    When Dallas was running a 4-3, the linebackers in general were the "low men on the totem pole" when it came to salary. I can't conceive of Dallas paying Spencer say $7 mil a year as an outside linebacker.

    And quite frankly given the needs of the position I don't see Spencer being a good fit as a 4-3 OLBer. Not fast enough. Too bulky.
  14. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    True.

    When Dallas was running a 4-3, it was the linebacking corps that made the least amount of money.

    The big money went to the defensive line and the secondary.
  15. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    And bingo was his name-o.

    'Sup Mike.
  16. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Yes, they generally paid the linebackers less. Or if they stood to make the really big bucks, they let them walk.
    Ken Norton and Robert Jones were setting tackling records in that scheme.

    To be fair though, that 4-3 is not the Kiffin 4-3.

    In any case, I agree that paying big dollars to a third LB when we already will evenutally be paying Lee and Carter, is probably not a reasonable option.
  17. PullMyFinger

    PullMyFinger Old Fashioned

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    ^^^This^^^
  18. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Just curious how often this happens? Do you have some examples of non-QBs being franchised and then traded?

    I'm not saying that it does not happen, just curious to find examples.

    I would be happy with a 4th round pick vs nothing.
  19. Mr_Bill

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    If Spencer is not fast enough and is too bulky, how did he manage to thrive within the previous system? On early downs, when the offense was not forced into a passing situation, but passed anyways, the Cowboys usually rushed 4, and Spencer was usually in coverage.

    Allow me to reiterate my suggestion. Have Spencer play SLB in non-passing situations, where the offense does not have 3 wides. Move him up to DE in passing situations, or when the offense has a passing set.

    In addition, people have been wondering who will back up Ware, when he needs a break. Why not Spencer? So, who backs up Spencer? Albright.

    I will grant that all of this responsibility might not be enough to justify a contract offer (or franchise tag) for Spencer. But, I believe he is fully qualified to handle it. More so than I think he could handle strong-side DE on a full-time basis.
  20. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    He turned 23 in May, which would make him 24 when next season rolls around.

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