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122 Blackwater workers fired in the past three years.

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  1. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Quality of Blackwater employees under fire

    Report: Firm fired 122 for violations; FBI to investigate Sept. 16 shoot-out

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21086476/

    WASHINGTON - Private security contractor Blackwater USA has had to fire 122 people over the past three years for problems ranging from misusing weapons, alcohol and drug violations, inappropriate conduct and violent behavior, according to a report released Monday by a congressional committee.

    That total is roughly one-seventh of the work force that Blackwater has in Iraq, a ratio that raises questions about the quality of the people working for the company.

    Amid questions of reckless behavior by U.S contractors, an FBI spokesperson said Monday that the agency is sending a team to Iraq to investigate the role of the North Carolina-based firm in last month's shoot-out in Baghdad that killed 11 Iraqis.

    FBI Special Agent Richard Kolko said the agency was making the move at the request of the State Department to examine evidence in the Sept. 16 shooting and to pursue possible criminal charges in light of allegations that guards working for Blackwater might have shot innocent Iraqi citizens.

    "The results of the investigation will be reviewed for possible criminal liability and referred to the appropriate legal authority," Kolko said.

    There are already several investigations under way, including one by the State Department and another by a U.S.-Iraqi commission that is also examining the broader issue of how private security contractors in Iraq operate.

    Probe details shooting incidents

    The report, prepared by the majority staff of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, says Blackwater has been involved in 195 shooting incidents since 2005, or roughly 1.4 per week.

    In more than 80 percent of the incidents, called “escalation of force,” Blackwater’s guards fired the first shots even though the company’s contract with the State Department calls for it to use defensive force only, it said.


    “In the vast majority of instances in which Blackwater fired shots, Blackwater is firing from a moving vehicle and does not remain at the scene to determine if the shots resulted in casualties,” according to the report.

    The staff report paints Blackwater as a company that’s made huge sums of money despite its questionable performance in Iraq, where Blackwater guards provide protective services for U.S. diplomatic personnel.

    Blackwater has earned more than $1 billion from federal contracts since 2001, when it had less than $1 million in government work. Overall, the State Department paid Blackwater more than $832 million between 2004 and 2006 for security work, according to the report.

    Report: Drunk employee killed Iraqi guard

    Blackwater, founded in 1997 and headquartered in Moyock, N.C., is the biggest of the State Department’s three private security contractors. The others are Dyncorp and Triple Canopy, both based in Washington’s northern Virginia suburbs.

    Blackwater USA under fire

    Findings of report
    Security firm guards fired the first shots in 80 percent of the firm's shooting incidents in Iraq despite the State Department call for using defensive force only.
    Blackwater has had more shooting incidents than the other two U.S. security firms combined.

    Incidents include a drunken employee shooting and killing an Iraqi security official.

    Blackwater has earned more than $1 billion from federal contracts despite only having $1 million in government work.

    Blackwater USA has fired roughly one-seventh of its work force in Iraq for various conduct-related violations.


    The report is not only critical of Blackwater. In two cases, the State Department urged Blackwater make payments to the families of Iraqis killed by its guards.

    On Dec. 24, 2006, a drunken Blackwater employee shot and killed a bodyguard for Iraq’s Shiite vice president, Adel Abdul-Mahdi.

    The Associated Press had previously reported that the contractor had gotten lost on the way back to his barracks in the Green Zone and fired at least seven times when he was confronted by 30-year-old Raheem Khalaf Saadoun.

    According to the staff report, within 36 hours of the shooting, the department allowed the Blackwater guard to be transported out of Iraq. A unnamed State Department official then recommended

    More shooting incidents
    According to the 15-page report, Blackwater has had more shooting incidents than the other two companies combined.

    The report was distributed to committee members on the eve of a hearing on private security contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Blackwater’s founder and chairman, Erik Prince, will be one of the witnesses.

    Blackwater spokeswoman Anne Tyrrell had no comment on the specifics in the report.


    “We look forward to setting the record straight on this issue and others tomorrow when Erik Prince testifies before the committee,” she said.

    On Friday seven of the oversight committee’s 18 Republican members called on Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., the panel’s chairman, to postpone the hearing until more is known about a recent incident in Iraq involving Blackwater guards.

    On Sept. 16, 2007, 11 Iraqis were killed in a shoot-out involving Blackwater guards protecting a U.S. diplomatic convoy in Baghdad. Blackwater says its guards acted in self-defense after the convoy came under attack. Iraqi witnesses have said the shooting was unprovoked.

    Republicans urge patience
    In a Sept. 28 letter, Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., and six other Republicans said the committee should wait until many investigations are complete.

    “We feel it would be irresponsible for the committee to rush to judgment until all the facts are considered,” the letter states.

    Rep. Tom Davis or Virginia, the committee’s top Republican, did not sign the letter.

    Spokesman Brian McNicoll said Davis has no objection to the hearing taking place because several State Department representatives are scheduled to testify.

    In addition to Prince, the witnesses include: David Satterfield, the department’s Iraq coordinator, Richard Griffin, assistant secretary for diplomatic security, and William H. Moser, deputy assistant secretary for logistics management.



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  2. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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    Pretty low rate if you ask me. They're having issues finding people to fill the workforce so the criteria is relaxed for empolyment. If you didn't drink when you got there you more than likely were when you left. Rough gig, crap part of the world, the food SUCKS and the duration is too long. I would recommend a 90 day rotation. Save them money in the long run.
  3. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    122 out of how many in Iraq? Interesting that that kind of data is NOT in the article, ISN'T IT? I mean if they have 2000 people there at any one time firing 122 in 3 years is NOTHING. Now if they have only 200 there that is another story- but it looks like there is a lot more. Now WHY would that article NOT mention how many employees that Blackwater had in Iraq over the last three years? I WONDER- could it be that this article had an AGENDA and pesky little FACTS like that just would not be in the spirit of the article?
  4. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Well it says one-seventh.

    122 x 7 = 854

    Now I don't know if 854 is the total men for the whole three years or just the amount in Iraq now or what.

    But if 854 is the total amount of men that have worked for Blackwater in Iraq in three years then 122 is NOT nothing.
  5. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    lol. you are so mean.
    you almost asked that reading the article be a pre-req for responding.
  6. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    I actually had "read the article before you start ripping it or stating that it has a agenda" typed But deleted it because I didn't want to be mean.:D
  7. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Roughly 1 out of 7. Why not give the strength of the force in Iraq for the time period? Of course ROUGHLY can cover a lot of ground. Especially in an article with an AGENDA.
  8. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Also: were all the 122 fired people who HAD been in Iraq? Or were they some that never got there- or were never there- as in the US and got fired. This article makes it seem that all 122 were in Iraq and did something to get fired. I wonder.
  9. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Why not just say you didn't read the article and started spouting off.

    The State Department and the FBI at the request of the State Department are investigating...do they have a AGENDA too?:rolleyes:

    If weeding out POS people who are killing people illegally is a AGENDA...then we need more AGENDA driven people AND articles.
  10. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Well the State Department and the FBI will be leading a AGENDA driven investigation...I'm sure they'll get back to you on the figures.
  11. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    I call Shenanigans on you and this article's agenda.

    Wait...the FBI and State department are investigating? Sounds like the agenda may not be an agenda at all.
    I guess the agenda is with someone else...

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  12. Ben_n_austin

    Ben_n_austin Benched

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    Sheesh.


    Multiply that by 7. Not so good at the details, are you? No wonder you're off base on everything. You don't have your premises in order.

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