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Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Teague31, Jul 8, 2006.

  1. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    You're talking about David Dixon, but he never actually got to Kansas State... he last played for Hutchinson Community College (and really, isn't the name "Hutchinson" enough to put you off, all by itself??)... when I first read about him, I was quite interested too, as he was supposedly 245 pounds, and ran the 40 in under 4.45 seconds...

    Then came his private workout, where he actually tipped the scales at 235, and ran two 40s between 4.75 and 4.9 seconds... unless somebody can tell me that there was a good reason for him running so much slower than he supposedly could (for example, if he was injured when he worked out), I'm not interested any more...
  2. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know if there have been any all pros ever picked in the Supp draft?
  3. ZeroClub

    ZeroClub just trying to get better

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    I believe that Bernie Kosar was a supplemental pick. WR Cris Carter too.
  4. ZeroClub

    ZeroClub just trying to get better

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    Does anybody know much about Marco Martin?

    Any opinions on whether he'd be worth signing as a free agent? NT is a position of concern.
  5. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Supplemental Draft Picks

    Name Year Rnd Team Pos College
    Al Hunter 1977 4 Seahawks RB Notre Dame
    Johnnie Dirden 1978 10 Oilers WR Sam Houston State
    Rod Connors 1978 12 49ers RB Southern California
    Rod Stewart 1979 6 Bills RB Kentucky
    Matthew Teague 1980 7 Falcons DE Prairie View A&M
    Billy Mullins 1980 9 Chargers WR USC
    Dave Wilson 1981 1 Saints QB Illinois
    Chy Davidson 1981 11 Patriots WR Rhode Island
    Kevin Robinson 1982 9 Lions DB North Carolina A&T
    Bernie Kosar 1985 1 Browns QB Miami (FL)
    Roosevelt Snipes 1985 8 49ers RB Florida State
    Charles Crawford 1986 7 Eagles RB Oklahoma State
    Brian Bosworth 1987 1 Seahawks LB Oklahoma
    Cris Carter 1987 4 Eagles WR Ohio State
    Dan Sileo 1987 3 Buccaneers DT Miami (FL)
    Ryan Bethea 1988 5 Vikings WR South Carolina
    Steve Walsh 1989 1 Cowboys QB Miami (FL)
    Timm Rosenbach 1989 1 Cardinals QB Washington State
    Bobby Humphrey 1989 1 Broncos RB Alabama
    Mike Lowman 1989 12 Cowboys RB Coffeyville JC
    Brett Young 1989 8 Bills DB Oregon
    Rob Moore 1990 1 Jets WR Syracuse
    Willie Williams 1990 9 Cardinals TE Louisiana State
    Dave Brown 1992 1 Giants QB Duke
    Darren Mickell 1992 2 Chiefs DE Florida
    Tito Wooten 1994 4 Giants DB Louisiana-Monroe
    John Davis 1994 5 Cowboys TE Emporia State
    Darren Benson 1995 3 Cowboys DT Arkansas State
    Mike Wahle 1998 2 Packers T Navy
    Jamal Williams 1998 2 Chargers DT Oklahoma State
    J'Juan Cherry 1999 4 Patriots DB Arizona State
    Milford Brown 2002 6 Texans OL Florida State
    Tony Hollings 2003 2 Texans RB Georgia Tech
    Manuel Wright 2005 5 Dolphins DT USC
  6. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Not exactly a distinguished group overall.
  7. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    :banghead:
  8. AbeBeta

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    You could randomly select from the regular draft pool a group that included that same amount of #1's, #2's etc. and you'd likely not see much quality difference between that group and the supplemental group.

    Two names from current rosters that jump out at me are Wahle and Jamal Williams. Both were had for a 2nd -- and both have far outplayed that value.

    Potentially, the supplemental draft can lead teams to reach -- but since there is a blind bidding process (you don't know what other teams are bidding), that produces less reaching.

    The only glaringly bad pick I see over the past 10 years was Hollings. The other first day picks turned out great -- and some of the 2nd day picks have been able to at least keep themselves in the league for a few years.
  9. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    yikes
  10. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    I know, Poindexter... I wasn't mad at ya or anything...
  11. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    I'm a Horns fan, I wouldn't waste one on him... he came to UT at right around 300 pounds, now weighs 355... he has Big Mike Williams disease...
  12. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Indeed... this is the kind of thing that will make scouts take the numbers that Hutchinson Community College provides them with a rather large grain of salt...
  13. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    I think they do that for all colleges, D1, D2, D3

    remember VTech saying DeAngelo ran a 4.19?!! lol
  14. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Interesting choice of words SB. You do know that Hutchinson is well known for their salt mines don't you?
  15. jcblanco22

    jcblanco22 Active Member

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    There is something very fundamentally bizarre about a guy who prefers tarring roofs to a Switzer-run training camp (Benson). He seemed like a solid gamble at the time, and he showed a very brief spark or two, but was ultimately out of football for good after 2 attempts in 2 seasons, IIRC.
  16. jcblanco22

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    This might be a completely stupid question, and a completely stupid question that only AdamJT13 may be able to answer at that, but are trades that utilize picks in the conventional draft for the following year for the purpose of moving up in the supplemental for this year allowed within the supplemental draft itself?

    Say that in this year's lottery the 4th round begins, and suddenly you've got a team near the middle of the round who wants Brooks badly but just as in the conventional draft, they fear that a team ahead of them in the order is ready to pounce on him in that round. Can say a 3rd round choice in next year's conventional draft be traded by that club that's feigning for Brooks to another club in order to move up the order in that round? That obviously means two lost picks in the following year's conventional draft for that particular team, but if they want the player badly enough I guess they'd do it.

    Taking that scenario one step further, I wonder if it's possible to trade a current player on your roster in order to move up in the supplemental. Totally obscure and insignificant inquiries, but it's all covered by the "Dead Period Before Camp" excuse. :p:
  17. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Some schools are worse about that than others... and in the case of 40 times, sometimes the culprit is an ultrafast track...

    Of course, schools fudge the numbers on their players in the hopes of drawing attention by pro scouts, but if they're too blatant about doing that kind of thing, there's a backlash effect, wherein scouts just chuckle about the numbers they offer...
  18. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Actually, no, I didn't... that's a surprise, the Hutch we had in here didn't prove to be too salty... LOL...
  19. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    As I recall, isn't the Supp draft a closed draft where teams hand in sealed picks and the team that uses the highest one on each player wins? No one knows who got who untill its all over?
  20. CrazyCowboy

    CrazyCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Don't really see these two players helping us any

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