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2011 Grammys

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by Temo, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    Lots of people angry that Arcade Fire won, apparently. Whatever, I'm a fan of their music so I was happy.

    Lots more people angry that Beiber lost to Esperanza Spalding, a Jazz Bassist who no one's ever heard of, including me. Not a Beiber fan, so I didn't care. But I went to go check out Spalding, and man she's good.

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    What with Avett Brothers/Mumford and Sons/Bob Dylan doing a performance, Muse winning best Rock Album and doing a performance (my favorite band), the Black Keys winning best Alternative Album (I thought their album "Brothers" was the best of the year) and Arcade Fire winning best album (been a fan for years), it was about the best grammy show I could have hoped for, personally speaking.

    Thoughts?
  2. ethiostar

    ethiostar Well-Known Member

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    No comment about the award show. I didn't watch it, i never do. But she is very good. What is as, if not more, impressive to me is that she is a faculty at Berkley at the age of 20....WOW.
  3. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I watched only to see Eminem's performance with Dr. Dre.

    I've never watched the Grammy's before and really don't care who wins.

    Although, seeing an actual artist who can play and sing win it over a cookie-cutter produced kid who only has a voice because he hasn't hit puberty yet is a little satisfying. I did notice however that Beiber had the guitar out. I suppose he's making an attempt at being an actual musician.

    At one point last night I was unsure if the Grammys actually gave out awards during the show anymore. I kept flipping between that and some other stuff and every time I was on the CBS it was a performance.
  4. ethiostar

    ethiostar Well-Known Member

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    BTW, she is quite a looker as well.

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  5. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    Yea, they had a huge mix of performers compared to a very small number of awards given out during the show (16 performances vs. 10 actual awards for the 3.5+ hours). I didn't mind as I thought many of the performances were great.

    As for Beiber with the guitar... he did have it, but it involved plucking a couple of chords for a minute then getting up and dancing. He's not an instrumentalist yet.
  6. Muhast

    Muhast Newo

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    Craziest outfit of the night- C-lo.

    What the heck was he wearing
  7. Gemini Dolly

    Gemini Dolly Well-Known Member

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    Never heard of Arcade Fire or Esperanza Spalding until last night.

    Bieber fans are going ballistic.

    Some of my favorite performances were:
    Muse
    The Aretha Franklin tribute
    Bruno Mars w/ B.O.B and Janelle
    Eminem with Dre
    Katy Perry

    Dissapointments were:
    Lady Gaga
    Usher and Justin Bieber

    Hilarious
    Cee Lo Green
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  8. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Looked like a giant turkey outfit.
  9. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    It was an Elton John homage:

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  10. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    I agree with all your picks, with the exception that I thought Janelle really outshined Burno Mars and B.O.B. Also loved the bluegrass stuff with Dylan and co.

    If you're new to Arcade Fire, may I welcome you and introduce you to this awesome website? :)
  11. Achilleslastand

    Achilleslastand Well-Known Member

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    The grammys are just more proof that music has devolved....Sad.
  12. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    Any particular artists get you feeling that way? Or just all of them? What's your favorite musical period?

    Personally I think music now is at a very good place.
  13. JustDezIt

    JustDezIt Formerly sm0kie13 ROY

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    Cee Lo and Gywneth performance for any of those who missed it. Gotta tell you that I think that Cee Lo is the man and have always loved his singing voice. Dont know what it is but reminds me of old school soul. Not to the mention Goodie Mob classics. Best performance of the night, laughed so hard at what he was wearing but not at him. Cause dude is mad spacey and did it for the hell of it. Any man that go out wearing that is about as secure as it gets.

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  14. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    Heh, funny statement in light of what I posted above (the Elton John video).
  15. JustDezIt

    JustDezIt Formerly sm0kie13 ROY

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    haha missed that post but that is funny. still fits tho, they both secure in their own sexuality. he the only man in hip hop i could see pullin it off.

    some other good music from him, someone who never heard much should check it out., incredible voice. is it possible to sound even better live then the recording? if so, he accomplishes it regularly.

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  16. Achilleslastand

    Achilleslastand Well-Known Member

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    I am sure there are some gems among the people that cant actually play a musical instrument or sing{pro-tools anyone?} But for the most part music peaked artistically and creativically in the 70s and 80s and has been in a slow decline since the early-mid 90s.
  17. MarionBarberThe4th

    MarionBarberThe4th Well-Known Member

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    She sums up my opinion on the matter nicely

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    Burtation derasin for tha dit indeed
  18. MarionBarberThe4th

    MarionBarberThe4th Well-Known Member

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    The Complaint:
    "Two words: 'Justin Bieber.' Turn on a classic rock station and you can listen for hours without hearing one bad song. Now turn on a Top 40 station and try not to gouge out your ears. Today's music is just a bland product mass-produced by corporations. Don't take my word for it -- ask any music critic. They'll tell you the stuff that sells today is generic garbage. Not the music back in the day, like Zeppelin, Elvis, The Beatles, Pink Floyd ... bands like that would never top the charts today."
    The Reality:
    There are two things that skew our cultural memory on things like music.
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    OK, three.
    First of all, you have the fact that the crap from previous eras gets forgotten, leaving only the great stuff behind. Those songs on classic rock stations are obviously cherry-picked as the best and most indicative of an entire era; it's not a random sampling of all the music available at the time. Modern rock or pop stations, on the other hand, have to play whatever's come out in the past six months or so.
    So there is a filter applied to the old stuff. Even most of the music in Mozart's day was bull****. And because it was bull****, nobody felt the need to keep copies. And what was preserved isn't played today. Because it's bull****. So it's easy to look back at Mozart's era (or the 1960s, or whatever) and assume that because only the classics survive in our memory, everything made back then was a classic.
    The other problem is we assume that what gets remembered over time is whatever was the most popular. Not true.
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    One day she will fade from history, and then man will finally know freedom.
    For instance, what survives from the Vietnam era (thanks mostly to Vietnam movies) are songs like the ****** protest song "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival and "Gimme Shelter" by the Rolling Stones. Both were released in 1969, after the war started going bad.
    Now look at the Billboard year-end singles charts from 1946 to today. The top song in 1969? "Sugar, Sugar" by the Archies. Let us quote the entire lyrics of that song:
    Sugar, ah honey honey
    You are my candy girl
    And you've got me wanting you.
    Honey, ah sugar sugar
    You are my candy girl
    And you've got me wanting you.
    I just can't believe the loveliness of loving you
    (I just can't believe it's true)
    I just can't believe the one to love this feeling to.
    (I just can't believe it's true)
    Ah sugar, ah honey honey
    You are my candy girl
    And you've got me wanting you.
    Ah honey, ah sugar sugar
    You are my candy girl
    And you've got me wanting you.
    When I kissed you, girl, I knew how sweet a kiss could be
    (I know how sweet a kiss can be)
    Like the summer sunshine pour your sweetness over me
    (Pour your sweetness over me)
    Sugar, pour a little sugar on it honey,
    Pour a little sugar on it baby
    I'm gonna make your life so sweet, yeah yeah yeah
    Pour a little sugar on it oh yeah
    Pour a little sugar on it honey,
    Pour a little sugar on it baby
    I'm gonna make your life so sweet, yeah yeah yeah
    Pour a little sugar on it honey,
    Ah sugar, ah honey honey
    You are my candy girl
    And you've got me wanting you.
    Oh honey, honey, sugar sugar ..
    You are my candy girl
    .
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    At least Britney Spears is most of a real person.
    "Fortunate Son" got no higher than No. 14 on the charts. "Gimme Shelter"? It was never released as a single at all.
    Go ahead, look down the list. There is some great music on there, but it's mixed in with a lot of stuff you've probably never even heard of. And do you know what you don't see on there? Queen, Led Zeppelin and a lot of other great musicians. Groups that are well-remembered now, when classic rock radio stations wouldn't be caught dead playing some of the **** that outsold them. Even Elvis and The Beatles are only on there twice, tying for the most No. 1 year-end singles with none other than George Michael.
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    And that's not even considering that, thanks to the Internet, we have far more access to all kinds of niche music genres and independent artists that we'd have never heard in the past.
    And as for the critics, you have to keep in mind that there will always, always be critics who hate whatever the latest trend is. Rock music as a whole was blasted pretty harshly when it first got popular. Melody Maker called it "one of the most terrifying things to have ever happened to popular music." The Daily Mail decided to up the ante by mixing in some good old-fashioned racism: "[Rock music] is deplorable. It is tribal. And it is from America. It follows ragtime, blues, jazz, hot cha-cha and the boogie-woogie, which surely originated in the jungle. We sometimes wonder whether this is the negro's revenge."
    Hell, even The Beatles weren't safe. The Daily Telegraph said that they were "something Hitler might find useful."
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    Holy ****, music critics of the 50s and 60s sound oddly like the Glenn Beck of today.
    Why? Because it's easier to be negative. That part will never change.
  19. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    That's kinda tough to watch.
  20. Achilleslastand

    Achilleslastand Well-Known Member

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    Did justin beiber write this?

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