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2012 Mel Kiper Jr. Invitational Report Card...

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Risen Star, Feb 25, 2012.

  1. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    The grading scale used....
    A+ ....8.00 and up
    A ......7.75 - 7.99
    A- .....7.50 - 7.74
    B+ ....7.10 - 7.49
    B ......6.75 - 7.09
    B- .....6.60 - 6.74
    C+ ....6.50 - 6.59
    C ......6.34 - 6.49
    C- ....6.25 - 6.33
    D+ ....5.90 - 6.24
    D ......5.70 - 5.89
    D- ....5.45 - 5.69
    F ......5.44 and lower


    2012 Mel Kiper Jr. Invitational Champion: JonJon, GM of the Cincinnati Bengals.

    Biggest steal was Jared Crick, 52nd overall to the Tennessee Titans (Hostile).

    Others receiving votes were: Vontaze Burfict ILB Arizona St. (N.Y. Giants), Bruce Irvin OLB West Virginia (Washington), Coby Fleener TE Stanford (Cincinnati), Trumaine Johnson CB Montana (Kansas City), Kirk Cousins QB Michigan St. (Green Bay), Chris Polk RB Washington (Washington).

    Biggest reach was Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M, 6th overall to the Washington Redskins (SDogo).

    Others receiving votes were: David DeCastro G Stanford, Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska (New England).


    Grades

    1) Cincinnati Bengals (JonJon)
    1(21) Janoris Jenkins CB Northern Alabama
    2(46) Doug Martin RB Boise St.
    2(51) Amini Silatolu G Midwestern St.
    2(53) Coby Fleener TE Stanford
    4(99) Travis Lewis OLB Oklahoma
    4(116) Aaron Henry S Wisconsin
    Added 2013 4th Round Pick (Philadelphia)


    Remaining Selections - 5(148), 6(180), 7(211)

    Original Selections - 1(17), 1(21), 2(53), 3(84), 4(116), 5(148), 6(180), 7(211)

    Total Score: 259.0
    High Score of: 10
    Low Score of: 6
    Average: 8.35

    Grade: A+

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    2) St. Louis Rams (ABQcowboyJR)
    1(4) Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma St.
    2(33) Zach Brown OLB North Carolina
    2(37) David Wilson RB Virginia Tech
    3(66) Senio Kelemete G Washington
    4(96) Cliff Harris CB Oregon
    4(100) Kheeston Randall DT Texas

    Remaining Selections - 6(160), 7(193)

    Original Selections - 1(2), 2(33), 3(66), 4(96), 6(160), 7(193)

    Total Score: 256.0
    High Score of: 10
    Low Score of: 5.5
    Average: 8.25

    Grade: A+


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    3) Philadelphia Eagles (supercowboy8)
    1(15) Devon Still DT Penn St.
    1(17) Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College
    3(77) Markelle Martin S Oklahoma St.
    3(84) Brandon Brooks G Miami (Oh.)
    4(114) Tony Bergstrom T Utah
    Lost 2013 4th Round Pick (Cincinnati)

    Remaining Selections - 5(145), 6(176)

    Original Selections - 1(15), 2(46), 2(51), 3(77), 4(99), 4(114), 5(145), 6(176)

    Total Score: 246.0
    High Score of: 10
    Low Score of: 6
    Average: 7.93

    Grade: A

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    3) Kansas City Chiefs (Risen Star)
    1(12) Trent Richardson RB Alabama
    2(64) Kendall Reyes DT Connecticut
    3(76) Brock Osweiler QB Arizona St.
    3(95) Trumaine Johnson CB Montana
    4(106) Mitchell Schwartz T California
    Added 2013 3rd Round Pick (N.Y. Giants)

    Remaining Selections - 5(139), 6(170), 7(202)

    Original Selections - 1(12), 2(43), 3(76), 4(106), 5(139), 6(170), 7(202)

    Total Score: 246.0
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 6
    Average: 7.93

    Grade: A

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    5) Minnesota Vikings (theogt)
    1(3) Matt Kalil T USC
    2(35) Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
    3(67) Bobby Wagner ILB Utah St.
    4(98) Brian Quick WR Appalachian St.

    Remaining Selections - 5(130), 7(194), 7(195)

    Original Selections - 1(3), 2(35), 3(67), 4(98), 5(130), 7(194), 7(195)

    Total Score: 244.0
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 6
    Average: 7.86

    Grade: A

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    6) Tennessee Titans (Hostile)
    1(20) Cordy Glenn G Georgia
    2(52) Jared Crick DE Nebraska
    3(83) Juron Criner WR Arizona
    4(115) Akiem Hicks DT Regina

    Remaining Selections - 5(147), 6(179), 7(211)

    Original Selections - 1(20), 2(52), 3(83), 4(115), 5(147), 6(179), 7(211)

    Total Score: 242.5
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 6
    Average: 7.82

    Grade: A

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    7) Cleveland Browns (TheCount)
    1(2) Robert Griffin III QB Baylor
    1(22) Kendall Wright WR Baylor
    3(68) Orson Charles TE Georgia
    4(118) Dwight Bentley CB Louisiana-Lafayette

    Remaining Selections - 5(131), 6(164), 6(183)

    Original Selections - 1(4), 1(22), 2(37), 3(68), 4(100), 4(118), 5(131), 6(164), 6(183)

    Total Score: 240.5
    High Score of: 10
    Low Score of: 5.5
    Average: 7.75

    Grade: A

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    8) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (dez_for_prez)
    1(5) Morris Claiborne CB LSU
    2(36) Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin
    3(69) Sean Spence OLB Miami

    Remaining Selections - 5(132), 6(163), 7(196)

    Original Selections - 1(5), 2(36), 3(69), 5(132), 6(163), 7(196)


    Total Score: 237.0
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 5.5
    Average: 7.50

    Grade: A-

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    8) Indianapolis Colts (Oh_Canada)
    1(1) Andrew Luck QB Stanford
    2(34) Lamar Miller RB Miami
    3(65) Ben Jones C Georgia
    4(97) Josh Chapman DT Alabama

    Remaining Selections - 5(128), 6(161), 7(192)

    Original Selections - 1(1), 2(34), 3(65), 4(97), 5(128), 6(161), 7(192)


    Total Score: 237.0
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 6
    Average: 7.50

    Grade: A-

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    10) Jacksonville Jaguars (Robert70X7)
    1(7) Quinton Coples DE North Carolina
    2(38) Kelechi Osemele G Iowa St.
    3(71) Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington
    4(101) Marvin McNutt WR Iowa

    Remaining Selections - 5(134), 6(165), 7(198)

    Original Selections - 1(7), 2(38), 3(71), 4(101), 5(134), 6(165), 7(198)

    Total Score: 221.5
    High Score of: 8
    Low Score of: 5
    Average: 7.14

    Grade: B+

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    11) Pittsburgh Steelers (Zaxor)
    1(24) Dont'a Hightower ILB Alabama
    2(56) Harrison Smith S Notre Dame
    3(87) Marcus Forston DT Miami
    4(119) Isaiah Pead RB Cincinnati

    Remaining Selections - 5(151), 6(182), 7(214)

    Original Selections - 1(24), 2(56), 3(87), 4(119), 5(151), 6(182), 7(214)

    Total Score: 215.0
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 5
    Average: 6.92

    Grade: B

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    12) Green Bay Packers (silverbear)
    1(28) Nick Perry DE USC
    2(60) Billy Winn DT Boise St.
    3(91) Philip Blake C Baylor
    4(123) Kirk Cousins QB Michigan St.

    Remaining Selections - 5(155), 6(186), 7(218)

    Original Selections - 1(28), 2(60), 3(91), 4(123), 5(155), 6(186), 7(218)

    Total Score: 210.0
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 6
    Average: 6.76

    Grade: B

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    12) Miami Dolphins (Picksix)
    1(9) Riley Reiff T Iowa
    2(40) Brandon Washington G Miami
    3(74) Joe Adams WR Arkansas
    4(104) Tyrone Crawford DE Boise St.

    Remaining Selections - 5(135), 6(169), 7(200)

    Original Selections - 1(9), 2(40), 3(74), 4(104), 5(135), 6(169), 7(200)

    Total Score: 210.0
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 5
    Average: 6.76

    Grade: B

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    14) Denver Broncos (cowboyjoe)
    1(25) Dontari Poe DT Memphis
    2(57) Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
    3(88) T.Y. Hilton WR Florida International
    4(120) Evan Rodriguez FB Temple

    Remaining Selections - 5(129), 5(152), 7(215)

    Original Selections - 1(25), 2(57), 3(88), 4(120), 5(129), 5(152), 7(215)



    Total Score: 209.5
    High Score of: 8.5
    Low Score of: 4
    Average: 6.75

    Grade: B

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    14) New England Patriots (BraveHeartFan)
    1(27) Mark Barron S Alabama
    1(31) Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
    2(48) Andre Branch DE Clemson
    2(63) Lamichael James RB Oregon
    3(94) Tommy Streeter WR Miami
    Added 2013 4th Round Pick (New Orleans)
    Added 2013 7th Round Pick (New Orleans)

    Remaining Selections - 5(154), 5(159), 6(190), 7(207)

    Original Selections - 1(27), 1(31), 2(48), 2(63), 3(94), 4(126), 5(159), 6(190), 7(207)

    Total Score: 209.5
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 4
    Average: 6.75

    Grade: B

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    16) Washington Redskins (SDogo)
    1(6) Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M
    2(44) Stephon Gilmore CB South Carolina
    3(70) DaJohn Harris DT USC
    4(102) Bruce Irvin OLB West Virginia
    4(107) Chris Polk RB Washington
    4(109) Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma

    Remaining Selections - 5(133), 6(162), 7(197)

    Original Selections - 1(6), 2(39), 3(70), 4(102), 4(109), 5(133), 6(162), 7(197)

    Total Score: 209.0
    High Score of: 10
    Low Score of: 5
    Average: 6.73

    Grade: B-

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    17) Carolina Panthers (ABQCowboy)
    1(8) David DeCastro G Stanford
    2(42) Mohamed Sanu WR Rutgers
    4(103) Jonathan Massaquoi DE Troy

    Remaining Selections - 5(137), 6(168), 7(199)

    Original Selections - 1(8), 2(42), 4(103), 5(137), 6(168), 7(199)

    Total Score: 205.0
    High Score of: 8
    Low Score of: 4
    Average: 6.60

    Grade: B-

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    17) Buffalo Bills (casmith07)
    1(10) Michael Brockers DT LSU
    2(50) Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech
    3(73) Dwight Jones WR North Carolina
    3(80) Shea McClellin DE Boise St.
    4(124) Levy Adcock T Oklahoma St.

    Remaining Selections - 5(136), 6(167), 7(201)

    Original Selections - 1(10), 2(41), 3(72), 4(105), 4(124), 5(136), 6(167), 7(201)





    Total Score: 205.0
    High Score of: 8
    Low Score of: 5
    Average: 6.60

    Grade: B-

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    19) Houston Texans (Bleu Star)
    1(26) Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina
    2(58) Brandon Thompson DT Clemson
    3(89) Ryan Miller G Colorado
    4(121) Brandon Mosley T Auburn

    Remaining Selections - 5(153), 6(184), 7(216)

    Original Selections - 1(26), 2(58), 3(89), 4(121), 5(153), 6(184), 7(216)

    Total Score: 203.5
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 4
    Average: 6.55

    Grade: C+

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    20) New York Jets (DFWJC)
    1(16) Courtney Upshaw OLB Alabama
    2(47) Rueben Randle WR LSU
    3(78) George Iloka S Boise St.
    4(105) Bobby Massie T Mississippi

    Remaining Selections - 5(146), 6(177)

    Original Selections - 1(16), 2(47), 3(78), 4(108), 5(146), 6(177), 7(208)

    Total Score: 202.5
    High Score of: 8.5
    Low Score of: 4
    Average: 6.53

    Grade: C+

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    21) Chicago Bears (Joe Rod)
    1(19) Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame
    2(41) Zebrie Sanders T Florida St.
    3(72) Casey Hayward CB Vanderbilt
    4(108) Antonio Allen S South Carolina
    4(111) Lucas Nix G Pittsburgh

    Remaining Selections - 5(142), 6(173), 7(204), 7(208)

    Original Selections - 1(19), 2(50), 3(73), 3(80), 4(111), 5(142), 6(173), 7(204)

    Total Score: 201.5
    High Score of: 7.5
    Low Score of: 5
    Average: 6.50

    Grade: C+

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    22) San Francisco 49ers (jterrell)
    1(30) Whitney Mercilus DE Illinois
    2(62) Nick Toon WR Wisconsin
    3(93) Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma St.
    4(125) Shaun Prater CB Iowa

    Remaining Selections - 5(157), 6(188), 7(220)

    Original Selections - 1(30), 2(62), 3(93), 4(125), 5(157), 6(188), 7(220)

    Total Score: 199.5
    High Score of: 8
    Low Score of: 3
    Average: 6.43

    Grade: C

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    22) San Diego Chargers (TheSport78)
    1(18) Mike Adams T Ohio St.
    2(49) Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St.
    3(79) Cam Johnson DE Virginia
    4(110) Matt Conrath DE Virginia

    Remaining Selections - 5(141), 6(172), 7(210)

    Original Selections - 1(18), 2(49), 3(79), 4(110), 5(141), 6(172), 7(210)

    Total Score: 199.5
    High Score of: 8
    Low Score of: 4
    Average: 6.43

    Grade: C

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    24) Baltimore Ravens (MichaelWinicki)
    1(29) Fletcher Cox DT Mississippi St.
    2(61) Leonard Johnson CB Iowa St.
    3(92) Stephen Hill WR Georgia Tech

    Remaining Selections - 5(156), 6(187), 7(219)

    Original Selections - 1(29), 2(61), 3(92), 5(156), 6(187), 7(219)

    Total Score: 198.0
    High Score of: 8
    Low Score of: 5
    Average: 6.39

    Grade: C

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    25) Dallas Cowboys (Dough Boy)
    1(14) Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama
    2(45) Vinny Curry DE Marshall
    3(82) Michael Brewster C Ohio St.
    4(113) Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati

    Remaining Selections - 5(144), 6(175), 7(206)

    Original Selections - 1(14), 2(45), 3(82), 4(113), 5(144), 6(175), 7(206)

    Total Score: 196.5
    High Score of: 8.5
    Low Score of: 4
    Average: 6.30

    Grade: C-

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    25) Seattle Seahawks (garrett316)
    1(11) Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina
    2(39) Nick Foles QB Arizona
    3(75) John Norman CB Coastal Carolina

    Remaining Selections - 5(138), 6(171), 7(209)

    Original Selections - 1(11), 2(44), 3(75), 4(107), 5(138), 6(171), 7(209)

    Total Score: 196.5
    High Score of: 8
    Low Score of: 3
    Average: 6.30

    Grade: C-

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    27) New York Giants (avery)
    1(32) Dwayne Allen TE Clemson
    2(43) Vontaze Burfict ILB Arizona St.
    4(127) Matt Reynolds T BYU
    Lost 2013 3rd Round Pick (Kansas City)

    Remaining Selections - 4(127), 5(158), 6(189), 7(221)

    Original Selections - 1(32), 2(64), 3(95), 4(127), 5(158), 6(189), 7(221)

    Total Score: 194.0
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 3
    Average: 6.25

    Grade: C-

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    28) Detroit Lions (Dash28)
    1(23) Peter Konz C Wisconsin
    2(54) Lavonte David OLB Nebraska
    3(86) Jake Bequette DE Arkansas
    4(117) Matt McCants T UAB

    Remaining Selections - 5(150), 7(203), 7(213)

    Original Selections - 1(23), 2(54), 3(86), 4(117), 5(150), 7(203), 7(213)

    Total Score: 193.0
    High Score of: 8
    Low Score of: 5
    Average: 6.23

    Grade: D+

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    29) New Orleans Saints (TheDallasDon)
    2(59) Ronnell Lewis OLB Oklahoma
    3(90) Mike Martin DT Michigan
    4(122) Chris Givens WR Wake Forest
    4(126) Audie Cole ILB North Carolina St.
    Lost 2013 4th Round Pick (New England)
    Lost 2013 7th Round Pick (New England)

    Remaining Selections - 6(185), 7(217)

    Original Selections - 2(59), 3(90), 4(122), 5(154), 6(185), 7(217)

    Total Score: 183.0
    High Score of: 9
    Low Score of: 3
    Average: 5.90

    Grade: D+

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    30) Arizona Cardinals (CCBoy)
    1(13) Jonathan Martin T Stanford
    3(81) Brandon Taylor S LSU
    4(112) Keenan Robinson OLB Texas

    Remaining Selections - 5(143), 6(166), 6(174), 7(205)

    Original Selections - 1(13), 3(81), 4(112), 5(143), 6(166), 6(174), 7(205)

    Total Score: 181.0
    High Score of: 7
    Low Score of: 5
    Average: 5.83

    Grade: D

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    31) Atlanta Falcons (hipfake08)
    2(55) Chandler Jones DE Syracuse
    3(85) Ladarius Green TE Louisiana-Lafayette

    Remaining Selections - 5(149), 6(181), 7(212)

    Original Selections - 2(55), 3(85), 5(149), 6(181), 7(212)

    Total Score: 164.0
    High Score of: 7
    Low Score of: 5
    Average: 5.28

    Grade: F
  2. dez_for_prez

    dez_for_prez Active Member

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    8th place, not bad for not really knowing anything before hand. It helps that I had high picks in each round tho. Would be interesting to see how much changes after the combine tho.
  3. cowboyjoe

    cowboyjoe Well-Known Member

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    I dont think I did to badly picking 24th in mock draft. I had players i wanted, and they were dropping like flies before i got to pick. Especially some got picked from 1 to 3 picks right before I picked. So, that shows alot of you did your homework and prepared for the draft.

    So, all in all i think i did ok.
  4. Deuce511

    Deuce511 New Member

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    How does a guy who gets the biggest reach of the draft (taken in the top 10 mind you) end up with a B-?
  5. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    2(44) Stephon Gilmore CB South Carolina
    4(102) Bruce Irvin OLB West Virginia
    4(107) Chris Polk RB Washington
    4(109) Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma

    Because of these picks.

    Gilmore - 34th on my board
    Irvin - 67th
    Polk - 62
    Fleming - 103

    I thought DaJohn Harris was kind of a reach.
  6. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    Risen, if you are in excel, can you plug in a standard deviation formula for all of the grades? I want to see which was the most polarizing.
  7. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    If people want to post their grades, be my guest. I won't do it unless they want me to.
  8. Oh_Canada

    Oh_Canada Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure that Lamar Miller pick hurt me a bit...all and all I am pleased with the grade.

    Congrats Jon Jon and ABQ, well deserved.
  9. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    1. Chiefs - 9.8
    2. Titans - 9.5
    3. Saints - 9.05
    4. Texans - 8.95
    5. Giants - 8.73
    6. Colts - 8.67
    7. Vikings - 8.5
    8. Packers - 8.48
    9. Bengals - 8.46
    10. Steelers - 8.18
    11. Panthers - 8.11
    12. Jaguars - 8
    13. Broncos - 7.87
    14. Jets - 7.83
    15. Browns - 7.8
    16. Eagles - 7.77
    17. Lions - 7.72
    18. 49ers - 7.56
    19. Cardinals - 7.45
    20. Bears - 7.449
    21. Rams - 7.4
    22. Patriots - 7.34
    23. Bucs - 7.335
    24. Ravens - 7.28
    25. Bills - 6.87
    26. Cowboys - 6.85
    27. Dolphins - 6.83
    28. Redskins - 6.45
    29. Chargers - 6.20
    30. Seahawks - 5.65
    31. Falcons - 5.08
  10. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Like RS said at the outset, these grades mean very close to absolutely nothing right now.
    So none of us can pat ourselves on the back for something of zero value.

    Grade these drafts in three years and we'll know who drafted best.

    In any case, this was a lot of fun!
    Thanks for putting it on.
  11. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    lol, the Falcons got an F? Clearly some people don't know how to grade a draft.

    They addressed two major needs with very limited resources. I didn't give them a 10 or anything obviously, but clearly some people failed to weigh resources, needs and opportunity in their grades.

    Not everyone had two 1sts or the resources to get there. They could have gone Tiny Toons and started trading next years picks, but they didn't. I think they played it well.
  12. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Every year I stress keeping in mind the ammo each GM inherited through our blind draft, but this stuff still happens.

    I gave him a 7. I like both players and at both spots. I also like that he refrained from giving up future picks to make up for lacking picks this year.

    This is why I include the remaining selections and original selections, as well as any gained or lost future picks, in with the draft classes you look at when grading. That matters. Or at least it should.
  13. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I don't know. I think this proves I'm a guru. :)
  14. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    :laugh2:
    FWIW, I did like your draft a lot.
  15. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    I think the Saints were robbed with ther grade. They deserved much better. Lewis, Martin and Cole are great picks.
  16. Zaxor

    Zaxor Virtus Mille Scuta

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    You may post my grades if you wish Risen Star .

    I really liked those first 4 they were well done. Heck all were well done.... I don't think I gave a failing grade to any one...and I would have if I thought it was crap.
  17. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Cowboys 4
    Giants 6
    Eagles 8
    Redskins 7
    Bears 7
    Lions 7
    Packers 8
    vikes 7
    Falcons (for what they had they did well) 7
    Panthers 7
    Saints 6
    TB 8
    AZ 6
    9ers 7
    seahawks 6
    rams (loved this draft) 9
    Bills 8
    Dolphins 6.5
    Patriots 5
    jets 6.5
    Ravens 7
    Bengals (loved this one too) 8.5
    Browns 7
    Steelers ------mine----
    Texans 6
    Colts 7
    Jack 7.5
    Titans (loved this one too) 8.5
    Broncos 7.5
    KC (loved this one too) 9
    Oak incomplete
    SD (loved this one also) 8.5
  18. Bleu Star

    Bleu Star Agent Coulson

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    Not bad for my first ever participation in a mock draft. I'll gladly take my grade and smile. I did wonder if some would view the Alshon pick as me being a homer given my intense love for the Gamecock (no jokes necessary.. Lol) ... but he fits right there with Houston and will do well in the league. Thanks for inviting me to participate. It was interesting & loads of fun.
  19. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Take the grade with a grain of salt. We'll look back on this a few years from now and see where everyone really ranked.
  20. hipfake08

    hipfake08 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. I knew I had to address the D line first and given the top 5 players in the area I was picking were gone at that point.

    Making a Washington type of trade would not have been worth it.

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