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2013 NBA playoff thread

Discussion in 'Sports Zone' started by MC KAos, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. MC KAos

    MC KAos Well-Known Member

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    You guys keep taking this scorer argument for more than what it is. Melo is the best pure scorer in the league, not the best shooter like KD or distributer like lebron, it's not about that, it's about his ability to score under any circumstance, he is the best overall. This doesn't mean he is a better player, he is just better at putting the ball through the hole
  2. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    If he did that, I'd take him. But through his career, he has failed to do so consistently, especially in the fourth quarter.

    What was it game 6 against the Celts last year...last possession he somehow had Rondo on him. What'd LBJ decide to do shoot a deep fadeaway jumper. He's a wuss and always has been.
  3. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    No argument from me, was being sarcastic. I would take Kobe over Melo though.
  4. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Haha, I actually figured you were, but I went with it anyways.

    I can live with people choosing Kobe over Melo in the clutch.
  5. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    Anyone arguing Carmelo is the best scorer is simply not looking at stats.

    KD shoots a higher percentage at the FT line(88 to 81), 3PT (37 to 33) and over FG% (48 to 46).

    Carmelo shoots A LOT so gets his points. That's how you lose games. It also has a lot to do with why Carmelo hasn't won more games.

    As far as LeBron please stop. NBA GMs would sell their kids for LeBron while they'd be scared to death of Carmelo and his hilariously bad 2.5 assists and 1 combined steal/block per game.

    Carmelo is easily the most overrated player in NBA basketball. He is a scorer and a good one but that comes at the cost of everything else.
  6. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    I never mentioned anything about those guys being better distributors or overall players. They are, but all I was considering was the ability to put the ball in the hoop. Durant and James are better at it than Melo and Melo ain't bad at it.
  7. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree, there is nothing he can't do, if he wants to. Unfortunately, he takes any shots, not just good shots. He will shoot into the double team rather then pass out of the double team and, as you said, he won't play defense, the guy has more turnovers then he does rebounds.

    Yeah, he could but he doesn't.
  8. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    Lebron can get to the rim whenever he wants under any circumstance; he is the better scorer.
  9. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    There is no big man scoring on the level of Lebron. Anybody can take a shot whenever they want, but I don't see how that makes you a better scorer if you are triple teamed. When I read that it sounds like Melo is an idiot and Lebron has common sense.
  10. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    Ha, Melo takes even worse shots; and that Cavs team isn't even remotely close to the Knicks team Carmelo is currently on. There is a reason they were one of the worst teams in NBA history when he was gone. The Knicks were in the playoffs before Melo got there.

    1 on 1 matchup with 10 seconds? I'll take Lebron running straight at the rim like a freight train.

    Catch and shoot with 1 second? Give me Melo.
  11. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Russell Westbrook torn meniscus... UGGGGGGGGH :banghead:

    Good luck vs the Heat, Spurs.
  12. bigdnlaca

    bigdnlaca Active Member

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    Ok so Lebron is on a higher level than some of the big man greats that were just as unstopable? Ok you sold me there.

    I didn't say a scorer is better if you are triple teamed. I said that when a game is on the line, a real scorer will create and take the shot no matter what the circumstances are. Period. They feel that they can make every shot. We see that with Kobe, Jordan, and others that will take the shot when they are heavily covered. Does that make them and idiot too?

    Im done.
  13. bigdnlaca

    bigdnlaca Active Member

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    If they can get somewhat decent pg play, they will be fine. They may insert Martin in the starting lineup because of that.
  14. MC KAos

    MC KAos Well-Known Member

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    They aren't beating a healthy spurs team without Westbrook. They might not make it past the second round without him. They got screwed getting the 1 seed. The 2 is where it's at!
  15. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    Big man greats? That's another story.

    I'm talking big men currently playing....

    Nobody is near 27 ppg shooting his percentage.
  16. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    Yep, Parker and Duncan will shred them without Westbrook.
  17. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    Lebron can take shots heavily covered if he needs to, he just doesn't need to lol. The better play is to make the pass. It doesn't make him less of a scorer, it's just a good basketball play. I get the whole killer mentality argument; Kobe and Jordan are straight cold blooded killers. Jordan is a better scorer than Lebron, Kobe is a better scorer than Lebron, but Melo is not a better scorer than Lebron. Melo is not Jordan or Kobe so don't put him on their level.

    I completely understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with you.

    If you tell me Durant is a better scorer than Lebron I am not going to argue, Durant is probably the #1 scorer in the league.
  18. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Huh? I don't think Lebron was a league leader in scoring in Cleveland when he had to bear most of the scoring burden.
  19. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    He also played in one of the weakest eastern conferences ever, having to beat The Wizards, Nets, and old Detroit team, only to get destroyed in four with the Spurs. It was that same conference in which Iverson took his team to the finals, with an even worse starting four. Plus, it's not like Mo Williams can't light it up, or vlajeros couldn't get nineteen on a given night. Why not look at Iverson's numbers during his career in that crappy Eastern conference, and that too, with NBA referee clearly admitting they targeted Iverson, by letting payers get away with fouling him.
  20. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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