A Radically Different Plan for the Cowboys

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by T-RO, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. T-RO

    T-RO Well-Known Member

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    I suspect there are at least a few dozen fans here with a higher IQ than Jerry. And at this point, with his age and alcohol addled brain...his functional IQ is eroding by the day. Can the guy even complete a coherent sentence?

    But worse than his IQ...it's Jerry's multiple bad habits that make him a train-wreck of a GM: short term thinking, refusal to cut bait on his mistakes, moth-to-the-flame love of shiny draft picks....and of course the biggie: his unwillingness to step out of the way.
  2. Muhast

    Muhast Newo

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    Pittsburgh Steelers, new york jets, and saints are all pretty far over too. But your point is correct, not to many others are as far over
  3. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Pretty lame plan.

    Maybe it sounds good in a fantasy world, but its only worth considering if it is a plan that has no chance at failure, and thats not the real world.
  4. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    uh huh.

    What is our cap status next year between dead money and contracts on the books. What about next year?

    Heck, what about this year?

    A generalization is not macro. When economists talk about GDP they still have a specific number behind it.

    Just stop. You don't know and that is okay.
  5. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I don't know how you got that from my response. I said nothing about my heart. I don't love any of these players. I love the team.

    My head is saying Romo is a legitimate franchise QB and it's really hard to find those kinds of guys. I probably wouldn't be against this kind of approach of flushing the roster, getting the cap fixed and loading up on as many picks as possible to build a new contender, but trading Romo would scare me. I don't take him for granted. He's a winner saddled with the worst owner/GM in sports.
  6. Cowboy_Ace

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    I understand nd love the idea of it, (I'm a huge romo fan too), I always wondered why nfl teams never do this, nba teams "tank" for the future... I like the thought, for the future anyways.. I also think by tankin u may need to trade ware aswell...no point in keeping him?
  7. Ring Leader

    Ring Leader Well-Known Member

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    If only they could play O-line. :cool:
  8. Nation

    Nation Well-Known Member

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    There isn't tangible evidence that tanking improves you over the long haul any better than being average or great. It's not like the NBA where one superstar can turn a terrible team around.
  9. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    NFL teams without a QB rarely win anything significant. There have been a few exceptions. Finding franchise QBs is difficult. When you find one you keep him and ride that horse as long as possible.

    So any plan that divests the franchise QB when there are several years left AND does not have a QB on board that has a good chance of becoming a franchise QB is fatally flawed.
  10. sonnyboy

    sonnyboy Benched

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    I have a better idea. How about we keep our frachise QB for the rest of his prime (2-4) years and do our best to build around him.
  11. KB1122

    KB1122 Well-Known Member

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    The one assumption in this evergreen discussion that I wonder about: is signing Romo long term really a better box office move? It is if he wins. But what if Romo and the team continue to miss the playoffs in the coming years. Is it really better to have him locked in long term?

    Compare that to trading Romo, having one losing season, and drafting Johnny Football.
  12. T-RO

    T-RO Well-Known Member

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    You want to maintain status quo. But there is no such thing. It's evaporating before your eyes.

    Retaining Romo is going to require massive money. Todd Archer reported that a top prominent AFC offensive coordinator claimed Tony Romo would quickly and easily become the highest paid player in the NFL if Dallas released him to free agency.

    I seriously don't see Romo looking at that and then giving Jerry a cap-friendly deal this offseason. If he's got good business sense he won't. And in the NFL...if a player becomes an unrestricted free agent...when does he ever stay in the same city? The reality? If Tony doesn't sign an extension with Dallas...he's won't stay a Cowboy.

    And if we know he's gone after this season...why not try to recoup some picks for him now?

    You really want a team that is already hijacked with the the cap to hand Romo the biggest NFL check in history? Really?
  13. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    :facepalm: Ever hear of the franchise tag? Not that it will ever come to it. Romo will sign an extension fairly soon.
  14. T-RO

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    The franchise tag would require the Cowboys to pay Romo $20 million* in 2014. That would nearly double the $11 million he's getting in 2013. And I suspect that teams cannot amortize that amount in any way....it must be paid as base guaranteed salary.

    If F-tagged again in 2015 the number would be 24.2 million.**

    So to use the franchise tag would still represent a huge salary increase and hit relative to the team's cap.

    *Franchise tags insure the player must be paid the average of the top five salaries in the league at their respective position.

    **source: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/report-cowboys-launch-romo-negotiations/
  15. T-RO

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    When I hear the term tank...I think of a team willfully going into non-compete mode...holding out starters, fake injuries, etc. I'm not suggesting that.

    But with Orton as our quarterback, our defense adjusting to a new scheme, and the existing holes on the roster...I could easily see us going 4-12 or some such.
  16. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    You still don't get it. They would not let him go.
  17. Cowboy_Ace

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    Lets say you trade romo for high pick this nd next say 1st nd 4th this nd 2nd next, u trade ware for second this nd first next. This yr we have 2firsts nd 2 2nds, same next year. But with one of this years firsts we trade back to the second for second this yr nd next yrs first... With three 1st nd 2 seconds next yr we come out with bridgewater nd clowney? Due to us sucking nd amount of high picks. U don't think hypothetically we would be better off for future, players nd cap? This is just a hypothetical scenario, that I in no way advocate. Just playing devils advocate (romo nd ware are 2of my fave cowboys)
  18. T-RO

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    On the contrary...you don't get it. What was my opening sentence in this whole thread? To save you the effort I'll put it here for you:

    I am arguing a plan altogether different. As far as what we see from Rally Blanch? The Cowboys do seem intent on trying (coercing even) Romo into staying...once again saddling themselves with an absurd contract paid to an aging player.
  19. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    You aren't arguing for a plan.

    Part 1 is just some nebulous claptrap. No specifics just generalities that you have no idea how to accomplish.

    Part 2 is not a plan but hope that someone will pay that much for Romo.

    Part 3 is you saying you don't care what people think.

    Part 4 is you saying you don't care if we suck.

    You could have saved a whole lot of words by just saying that you want to rebuild now. That is a generalization too but you are proposing nothing more original than that.
  20. dadymat

    dadymat I'm kind of a Big Deal

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    like every single other team would do in this exact case if it were their problem to solve......you dont let franchise QBs in their prime walk.....

    to me your reasoning about this makes no sense.....you say its gonna put us in salary cap hell, well...if your not gonna spend on your QB who ya gonna spend on?...dont matter cause if you aint got a QB you aint got squat ......if you let him walk you are either gonna.. A) draft a guy and HOPE he that he is a franchise QB, or B) go sign a franchise QB.......except that there are NO franchise QBs on the market because few teams are dumb enough to let one walk unless they have a better one ready to go..and if there were you would spend just as much as Romo would have cost...or C) like in most cases you are gonna go 10 years sifting through spares till you find a guy...none of those are acceptable to me....

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