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Adam Vinatieri FA - how much would you pay?

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by REDVOLUTION, Nov 28, 2005.

  1. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    First - imagine what our record would be if he was a cowboy this year - hmmph!

    Second - how much would you pay to get him in a starred helmet?
  2. The30YardSlant

    The30YardSlant Benched

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    Kickers are not football players, and should not be paid as such

    However, someone will likely pay him BIG money
  3. DLCassidy

    DLCassidy Active Member

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    It doesn't work that way. NE used the franchise tag on him this year. They'll probably do it again which means he's going exactly nowhere.
  4. AmishCowboy

    AmishCowboy if you ain't first, you're last

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    If he'd take it, maybe 1.5 million a season, his kickoffs would be a plus also. I believe we would be 9-2 with a decent kicker, we haven't had one since Boniol!.
  5. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    It's going to take $2.0M per.

    I would pay it.
  6. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    Eleventy-billion.
  7. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    I would rather fix the other problems on the team. If you can get an offense that can score more touchdowns, you don't need to rely on the kicker. Ifyou can get a defense to give up fewer points, then you don't need to rely on the kicker.

    I am sure Dallas will try to find a better kicker, but I don't see them throwing a lot of money at the position.
  8. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    Sure it'd be nice to get an offense that doesn't need to kick field goals. But the fact is, with the conservative play-calling, we're going to get in these situations. A clutch kicker is a necessity for this team.
  9. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    As long as Parcells continues to go with a strong defense, run the ball, control the playclock, win it in the end strategy, you need a top PK.

    Parcells is not a open-it-up, blow-em-out type coach. We won't see an Indy type offense anytime soon.

    The defense is fine.
  10. KingTuna

    KingTuna New Member

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    Whatever it takes to get him in a Cowboys uniform...That's how much!!!

    Bill Parcells brought him into the league as an NFL Europe kicker in 1996. He beat out Parcells all time favorite kicker Matt Bahr and has started ever since.

    Let's go full circle on the 10 year anniversary next year....

    BRING IN ADAM!!!!!
  11. Hiero

    Hiero New Member

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    yep exactly, the way we play neccesitates a clutch kicker. just like the patriots we like to keep it close, but instead of having vinateiri like Belichik, Parcells has scrubs and it makes a huge difference. id love to have him hear and I think we can afford it.
  12. kojak

    kojak Who Loves Ya Baby?

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    :eek:
  13. kojak

    kojak Who Loves Ya Baby?

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    Yeah possibly the Giants. ;)
  14. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    A good kicker buys time to fix other problems and adds a few more wins instead of losses...
  15. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    :jackpot:
  16. LandryFan

    LandryFan Well-Known Member

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    I would say a top-flight kicker would be worth a lot (even though, as HeavyHitta stated, thay aren't "football players"). My reasoning?

    Right now, after 11 games, Neil Rackers is the top kicker in the league, having kicked 32/33 FG's and scored 110 points. I'll compare that to an "average " kicker, Josh Scobee, who is ranked #16 in the league (about the middle of 32 teams). He has kicked 16/21 FG's and scored 73 points.

    If you extrapolate the statistics for both kickers out to a full 16 games, Rackers would end up with 160 points on the season vs. the average kicker (Scobee) who would have 106 points on the season. That is a difference of 54 points. That's equal to a skilled player scoring 9 more TD's for you. What would a RB or WR who scores 14 TD's per season command in salary vs. one who scores 5 TD's per season?

    I am aware that one also must account for opportunity, etc., but that is one way to compare. To me, a top kicker is worth big $$not only for the points they are going to score for you, but also because their points often mean a "W" at the end of a game. We know that, the Giants know that...

    As for Veneiterri, he's 14/18 with 67 points and ranked #23 on the year.

    Just my two cents.
  17. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't talking about getting an Indy type offense. Just one that can be more consistent and score more points. You can have a conservative game plan and still do that. An offense that averages more than 4 yards a carry, controls the clock and dosen't kill itself with missed assignments and inopportune penalties.
  18. david_jackson

    david_jackson New Member

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    If you can get a player that equals 1-2 more wins a year that is well worht a 2 mil contract (or high draft pick) Just Win!
  19. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    I used Indy as an example to prove a point.

    We can't run 4 yards a carry because our OL isn't good enough right now. We have been good controling the clock though. Unfortunately, missed assignments and penalties are part of the game. Every team does it in every game.

    But again, a control-the-clock strategy needs a top notch kicker.
  20. DallasDomination

    DallasDomination Well-Known Member

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    What ever it takes bring that man to DAllas!!!!!

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