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Adrian Wilson?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by lqmac1, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    I think any good true FS will tell you that instincts trump athletic ability. I just don't think it's realistic to think Wilcox is anywhere near ready to play a single high FS by himself. I do think he will develop into a pretty darn good SS though. Or at least a faster version of Church.

    Johnson? Let me know when he plays a down of nfl football. We have no clue if that will ever even happen.

    And yeah church pretty much is what he is.

    That group just doesn't instill confidence in me. I can just see Jackson and Cruz sprinting down the sidelines for a TD already because the safety was out of position.
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  2. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    If he wasn't 60 he would be worth a look. :D
  3. LittleD

    LittleD Active Member

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    It doesn't really matter because according to Eatman and Broaddus at the ranch, they've talked to the coaches and scouts and have said several times
    that they are just fine with what they have. They want to at least go to training camp and see if 1 of the 3 can take the starting FS job for real. Actually, Eatman the other day said that the staff looked at the stats and they weren't that bad because the defensive line was so bad!!!
    Pretty much you can forget the Boys looking at safety in the 1st 3 rounds due to more pressing needs on the lines and at LB.
  4. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    And I believe that to be the prudent move (not taking a safety)
  5. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    I have no clue how anyone could possibly think LB is more of a pressing need than S.
  6. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    The safety position has been ignored for years and it seems that it they are willing to continue the trend. Church is nothing more than a role player and his speed is a liability. The others are small school projects that have little chance of developing into top quality players. It is insane to continue this approach to fixing the problem considering how important good safety play can be for a top defense.
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  7. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Being ignored is not the same as not being addressed in the manner you would like for it to be addressed.

    They did not ignore the line for years...they just did not put as much of a priority on it until they finally changed and got T.Smith and T.Frederick.

    Same with the Safety position. They have not ignored it. They just have not made it a priority as they have had with other positions.

    Not addressing it like you (and others) want it addressed does not equal ignoring it.

    Personally I would rather they put the trenches as the priority...something they have failed to do and are hopefully now changing.
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  8. Section444

    Section444 Well-Known Member

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    Again, no more old guys. We still have a few we need to get rid of, don't start adding more.
  9. Pessimist_cowboy

    Pessimist_cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Heath was better than Wilcox last year if you ask me. He actually made some plays . Yes he looked out of place on deep balls but what do you want from an undrafted rookie . Wilcox ? I mean he took bad angles several times last season and often has chances to make tackles and has bad technique . Maybe he will improve but he was benched for Heath . Says a lot.
  10. LittleD

    LittleD Active Member

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    I agree with you and so does Eatman and Broaddus. Heath actually had many more tackles than thought and surprised the defensive coaches.
    Geez, give these young guys a chance. Heath is an undrafted rookie from a very small college and Wilcox has only played the position for 1 year.
    They both should be better this year after a year of training and another training camp. If neither one takes the bit, then I suspect that they will draft another
    one next year. The cowboys just do not believe in taking a safety or guard in the 1st round and I don't think that's gonna change. They look for players in the 1st to be 1st game starters and potential impact players such as Tackles, DE, LB's with speed, TE, and WR. The youth movement is going to continue
    for the next few years until the next generation of players are locked in place....Bank it!!!
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  11. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    It's the year 2014, teams are throwing the ball 60+% of the time and 3+ WR's has become the standard package. Plus add in the fact that TE's are becoming more and more athletic and downfield threats. The notion that safety, especially FS, isn't an important or premium position is asinine honestly.
  12. LittleD

    LittleD Active Member

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    I kind of agree with you but Broaddus spoke with the defensive coaches and in this scheme of the 4x3, safeties are not a prime position. They
    focus on the defensive line to get to the QB and thus put less pressure on the backend. That is just the facts whether we agree or like it...
  13. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    The results will speak to whether it's actually a fact or not....I'll believe Barry Church, JJ Wilcox, and Jeff Heath forming a respectable safety tandem when I see it.
  14. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    The results have no bearing on the fact that what he said was correct.

    They, the coaches, view it how they view it.

    Now until the coaches change or Jerry does another direction change...that is how they view it.
  15. renny

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    Wilcox didn't play that well last season, but I wonder if his play suffered because of the illness/death of his mother. This was a young kid with family issues that he was dealing with. Give him time.
  16. LittleD

    LittleD Active Member

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    Don't forget Matt Johnson... From the coaches, they still think he has a chance to play in this scheme.
    This scheme of the 4x3 is all about the front 7. Here are the prime positions:
    DT-3T
    WDE
    SDE
    WLB
    MLB
    SDE
    DT-1T
    SLB
    LCB
    RCB
    FS
    SS
    in order of position...
  17. jobberone

    jobberone Save the Snow Leopard Staff Member

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    Wilcox started to show something late in the year but he was, as expected, very inconsistent. If he has any instincts then he'll be a player at FS. The coaches like Johnson so I assumed he had something athletically to play the game. But that's just an assumption. I have no idea what to expect from Johnson. You can pick up a lot from the film room and chalkboard but you have to play the game to get the most from it.
  18. jobberone

    jobberone Save the Snow Leopard Staff Member

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    I'd rank the DL 1, Mike 2 and FS 3 but this isn't a Tampa 2 so I don't know. If you're the guy on the button then you have to make a play IMO. So 1 thru 11 are equal. And they generally pick on the weak links anyway.
  19. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    I am a firm believer in the trenches , but safety has been a lingering problem for years. The trenches includes many more positions, so more resources should go there. I will use the term "ignore" again. They have ignored many quality options at the safety position and have depended on hopes and prayers as a solution. The results are to be expected. I don't care for an old get as a progress stopper, but in this case the get wouldn't be stopping much progress. The small school projects will need a couple of seasons to pan out, if they ever do. I do consider the team as ignoring the position much like they have the trenches. As I stated, they ignored quality options repeatedly in several situations.
  20. hornitosmonster

    hornitosmonster Well-Known Member

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    Pass. Wilson is pretty washed up

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