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Ahmadinejad Challenges Obama to Public Debate

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by Jordan55, May 25, 2009.

  1. Jordan55

    Jordan55 Active Member

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    What will they debate?
    They both want US troops out of Iraq. They both want Israel to give up land.
    Ahmadinejad wants America to apologize for its arrogance.
    Obama wants to apologize.
    So, what's there to debate?


    Fars News reported:


    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday voiced readiness to attend a public debate with his US counterpart Barack Obama at the United Nations over the root causes of the world problems.

    "As I invited the US president to a debate in (my address to) the United Nations during my visit to New York in the past, I repeat my call for a debate (with the US president) to study the root causes of global problems and management and collective participation in (the establishment of) sustainable security and peace," Ahmadinejad told foreign reporters in a press conference at the presidential office here in Tehran today.

    "The human being and powers should change their view about world management as this is the only way to establish sustainable peace," Ahmadinejad said, and added, "And a major part of this change should take place in the kind of look that the dominant ruling systems have over the world, and a new system should be created in the world equations."

    Sorry folks, but Ahmad would win this debate.

    Obama and the media can invoke racism (and his grandmother) until the cows come home. It just won't work on Ahmadinejad and his cohorts in Iran.

    What else is there to see to debate, how far Obama can bend over and how much blame he can put on the past administration?:lmao2:
    .The only interesting thing would be which one is the bigger anti-Semite
  2. Jordan55

    Jordan55 Active Member

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    On a serious note, may they always be remembered and there sacriface never forgotten. God Bless there Souls!!!!
    One Big, Thank you to all the Men and women who proudly serve our nation. We are all truly indebted to all of you.

    [IMG]
  3. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    Hugo Chavez could moderate.:D
  4. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    Ditto!

    Maybe it should have it's own thread.
  5. Jordan55

    Jordan55 Active Member

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    I think your right I wonder if a mod might be able to help.
  6. MetalHead

    MetalHead Benched

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    it does...it is a sticky on the fan zone.
  7. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    What the source of this article. It sounds like the article posted in another thread but I'm not sure.
  8. Jordan55

    Jordan55 Active Member

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    Fars News

    It was included in the article
  9. Jon88

    Jon88 Benched

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    Well Obama wanted to talk, and now the little monkey man is offering. Kinda in a hard spot now...
  10. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    Obama is anti-Semitic?
  11. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it is that clear cut at this point, but he sure is not a friend of Israel's either. That much is for sure.
  12. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    Why do you say that?
  13. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    Based on the actions Obama has taken to this point.
  14. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    :laugh2:

    Well I figured that much, lol. I'm just curious what actions you think point to him not being a friend of Israel. Just because Obama supports a Palestinan state, that doesn't mean that he's anti-Israel. Bush supported a two-state solution as well and was conisdered to be a friend of Israel.
  15. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    I never claimed to be a big Bush fan. I didn't approve then and I don't approve now. I do believe we should back our only ally in the area. As has been pointed out several time, Jordon and Egypt were able be make peace with Israel after there their insane attack on that country during the 6 day war. I am against a group that wishes for the downfall of America.

    PS Bush is not the president.
  16. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    Dang you, you still didn't answer my question! What has Obama done that makes you think that he's not a friend of Israel? I'm not trying to trap you or anything, I'm just curious. I actually thought Bush was an alright President, I voted for the guy and I think that history will have a fairly kind view of his two terms. I know he's not the president, I was just pointing out that supporting a Palestenian state doesn't automatically make you anti-Israel.
  17. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    What is your definition of a Palestinian? Just so we understand each other.

    Can you name three things that shows that Obama is a strong friend and ally of Israel?
  18. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I was hoping for a link.
  19. Doomsday101

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    TEHRAN, Iran — Mahmoud Ahmadinejad proposed on Monday a face-to-face debate with President Barack Obama at the United Nations if he is re-elected next month as Iran's president.

    But he balanced the offer with a sharp rebuke to Washington and its allies over Iran's nuclear program. He reiterated that Iran would never abandon its advances in uranium enrichment in exchange for offers of easing sanctions or other economic incentives.

    The nuclear issue "is closed," he told a news conference.

    Obama has urged a "serious process of engagement" after Iran's elections in an effort to end a nearly 30-year diplomatic chill. However last week, the American leader said the U.S. was prepared to seek deeper international sanctions against Tehran if it did not respond positively to the attempts to open negotiations on its nuclear program. Obama set a year-end deadline for Iran to show it wanted to engage with Washington.

    The tough talk on nuclear negotiations following Iran's test last week of a long-range missile appear aimed at burnishing Ahmadinejad's hard-line credentials in the election campaign against another conservative and two pro-reform candidates.

    His offer of to debate Obama could also be campaign posturing before the June 12 vote. But it does put Ahmadinejad on record as supporting a potentially groundbreaking encounter following Obama's offer for dialogue.

    Ahmadinejad said that, if re-elected, he would be open to "debate global issues as well as world peace and security" during the U.N. General Assembly in September.

    There was no immediate reaction from Washington.

    Ahmadinejad has often denounced the West for trying to pressure Iran to give up it uranium enrichment program, a process that can produce fuel for both nuclear energy and nuclear weapons. Tehran insists it is only to fuel peaceful reactors, but the West worries could lead to nuclear weapons development.

    His latest comments appear to be part of a campaign strategy to portray himself as the only candidate capable to defending Iran's nuclear technology.

    Last week, he accused his reformist predecessor, Mohammad Khatami, of bringing "humiliation" on Iran by agreeing to suspend uranium enrichment from 2003-5 as a confidence-building measure with the West.

    That also served as a direct shot at Ahmadinejad's main reformist challenger, Mir Hossein Mousavi, who is backed by Khatami.

    Ahmadinejad also faces another hard-liner, former Revolutionary Guard commander Mohsen Rezaei, and a moderate, former parliament speaker Mahdi Karroubi, in the four-way race.

    The campaign took a bitter turn over the weekend when reformists accused Ahmadinejad's supporters in the Islamic regime of blocking the popular social networking site Facebook, which has become an important tool to mobilize Iran's crucial youth vote.

    More than half Iran's population was born after the 1979 Islamic Revolution and young voters represent a huge potential bloc for pro-reform candidates.

    Ahmadinejad sidestepped questions about whether authorities ordered a Facebook block late last week. But he said he believed "in maximum freedom of expression."

    "There are many Web sites active in the world that can be accessed in Iran. Many Web sites are against the government," he said, adding that officials "don't need to shut any sites shut down."

    But Iran has cut off access to many blogs and Web sites critical of the Islamic regime and its ruling clerics. Media groups and others have strongly criticized Iran's clampdown on the web.

    Mohammad Ali Abtahi, a former vice president and a top adviser to Karoubi's campaign, called the Facebook block "painful news for young and educated Iranians."

    "(Ruling authorities) would only like their voice heard," he wrote in an e-mailed protest, claiming his own Facebook site had attracted more than 3,000 followers. "Any other voice (for them) is intolerable."
  20. Dallas

    Dallas Old bulletproof tiger

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    I think the President should challenge every sabre rattleling world leader to a game of H O R S E. After he wins they cannot say anything bad or do anything bad to the world for an entire year.

    I am certain it would be a slam dunk for him. :)

    After that year is over, more H O R S E.


    We win!

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