Another trade?

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  1. Mr Cowboy

    Mr Cowboy Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Mickey Spagnola said the Cowboys were talking to the Chiefs about Jerome Woods. He is behind Sammy Knight and wants out and they said that most of his "big salary" came off of the 5 million signing bonus he got. Woods made the Pro Bowl in 2003
  2. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    I was looking at Woods the other day when I heard he may be cut. He's been playing FS. The only thing is that I think he's had some knee issures.
  3. da_boyz_mk

    da_boyz_mk How 'Bout Dem Cowboys

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    this would be a nice pick-up.....especially since at the moment we have no one behind davis and williams..
  4. ghst187

    ghst187 Well-Known Member

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    can we trade Coakley for him?
  5. stilltheguru

    stilltheguru Well-Known Member

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    so..............that means he wants to start in dallas then?

  6. smashmouth

    smashmouth Benched

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    OMG! I can't believe that.

    BP wasn't kidding about his LB'r crue, he's doing something about it.

    I could kiss the Cowboy organization right now. "but I wont" haha
  7. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Cutting both Scott and Coady, its almost a assured that a safety or two will be brought in somehow.
  8. da_boyz_mk

    da_boyz_mk How 'Bout Dem Cowboys

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    you think maybe a deal for woods would include morgan straight up. they do need wide receiver help...
  9. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Article about Woods.


    The Kansas City Star

    Most of the remaining Chiefs backup players watched this week’s round of cuts come and go with a tremendous sense of relief, even if it lasted only a few more days.

    Then there’s safety Jerome Woods, who watched the departing players leave with a sense of envy. He acknowledged asking the Chiefs to be one of them.

    “I did,” Woods said. “From a business standpoint, it’s hard for them to do. It looks like I’m stuck. But you never know.

    “I know they’re doing what they’ve got to do. But the thing going through my head the last five or six months is that I want them to put themselves in my shoes: Why can’t Jerome Woods do what’s best for Jerome Woods? I don’t want people to think I’m selfish, because I’m a team player. I gave up a lot for my team over the years. What’s best for me now may be to move on.”

    That thought certainly crossed the minds of the Chiefs, but as with so many decisions involving veteran players, this one is complicated by finances. Woods, fresh off his only Pro Bowl appearance, last year signed a contract that paid him a two-part signing bonus totaling $5 million.

    Releasing him now, two seasons into a six-year contract, would cost the Chiefs about $3.35 million against next year’s salary cap. That’s a sum they’re in no hurry to put on their books.

    So this week, the Chiefs cleared out Willie Pile and Shaunard Harts, Woods’ main competition for backup positions. Unless plans change, Woods will join William Bartee as the backup safeties.

    All NFL teams must cut their rosters to 53 players today.

    Woods didn’t start in the Chiefs’ 27-23 loss to the Rams on Friday, but he contributed two tackles in a reserve role.

    “We know Jerome Woods is a good football player,” coach Dick Vermeil said. “He started a ton of football games. We know he can go in and start. We know he can provide competition if the starter doesn’t play well. That’s the No. 1 criteria. I never had any plans to send him out of here.”

    Woods’ career took a precipitous fall since he signed his latest contract. He played poorly last season, when he changed his playing style by trying to make interceptions rather than playing a man in pass coverage.

    The Chiefs after the season signed veteran safety Sammy Knight, pushing Woods to the bench.

    Woods views his 18-month-old contract as both a blessing and a curse.

    It provided him with $5 million in bonus money and this year a base salary of $865,000. It’s also tethering him to the Chiefs when he would otherwise be expendable.

    “If I knew this was going to happen, it would have affected my decision,” he said, referring to the signing of his contract. “My agent wanted me to listen to other teams, other offers. I wanted to come back because I had been here my whole career. (Defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham) was coming back.”

    Most frustrating for Woods is that while the Chiefs may have use for him only as a reserve, at least a few teams would take him as a starter. The Cowboys, for instance, are desperate for a safety and inquired about Woods.

    “The market is out there,” Woods said.

    His contract also makes Woods untradable. A trade means the Chiefs would assume a salary-cap hit this year of more than $4 million.

    Woods apparently will play for the Chiefs or not at all.
  10. blindzebra

    blindzebra Well-Known Member

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    Coady will come back after week one, unless we sign a couple of safeties.
  11. roughneck266

    roughneck266 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Man that would be great.
  12. JackMagist

    JackMagist The Great Communicator

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    Not necessarily. A lot of guys want out when they get demoted but are perfectly happy to play the same demoted spot for someone else. You see it all the time; they just don't want to backup their old starting job on their old team. Same deal with Aaron Glenn...he was demoted to #3 and asked to be released only to come to Dallas as the #3.
  13. InmanRoshi

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    I say trade them Quincy Morgan. He might be a good fit in Vermeils offense. They can't be that concerned about hands, considering they got Eddie Kennison.
  14. Cbz40

    Cbz40 The Grand Poobah

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    Former Pro Bowl free safety entering his 10th season in a Kansas City uniform in 2005 … Provides the Kansas City defense with another seasoned performer in the defensive backfield and should prove an invaluable asset to fellow S Greg Wesley who will be making the transition from strong safety to free safety this season … Attempting to bounce back from a left knee injury that cost him the final six contests of the 2004 campaign … Former first-round draft choice has been a mainstay in the club’s secondary after moving into a starting role at free safety in just his second pro campaign in ‘97 … In the subsequent five seasons only missed one start for the club prior to suffering a broken right leg in the preseason that cost him the entire 2002 campaign … Made a remarkable comeback in 2003, starting all 16 games and becoming the first Kansas City safety to earn a Pro Bowl berth since Chiefs Hall of Fame inductee Deron Cherry did it following the ‘88 campaign … A member of an elite group of Kansas City safeties who have made the Pro Bowl, including the likes of Chiefs Hall of Famers Lloyd Burruss, Cherry and Johnny Robinson … Shares the title of the the longest-tenured defensive player on the club’s roster along with DT John Browning, who also joined the team in the ‘96 NFL Draft … Ranks 42nd on the club’s all-time service chart with 121 games played … Is also one of just 27 players in team history to start 100 or more games … Owns a reserved personality off the field, but has produced plenty of highlight-quality hits over the years … Ranks seventh on the franchise’s all-time tackle chart, needing 12 more stops to move ahead of LB Derrick Thomas (728) and 26 more tackles to bypass LB Donnie Edwards for fifth … Owns four 100-tackle campaigns, as well as a 99-tackle effort in 2003 … Played over half of the ‘98 season with six screws and a metal plate inserted into a broken right hand … Despite that injured appendage, still started all 16 games and finished third on the squad with 124 tackles that year … Shared the club’s KO return chores with WR Tamarick Vanover as a rookie in ‘96 and also served as a reserve cornerback before moving to free safety in ‘97 … Has seen action in 121 regular season games (105 starts), producing 15 INTs with 282 return yards and two TDs … Owns 717 tackles (486 solo), four fumble recoveries and 11 forced fumbles … Has also racked up 5.0 sacks (-27.0 yards), 49 passes defensed, 29 QB pressures and 24 special teams stops … Recovered a blocked FG attempt in ‘98 … Returned 25 kickoffs for 581 yards (23.2 avg.) with a long of 66 yards as a rookie in ‘96 … In two postseason starts has recorded 10 tackles (seven solo) and a forced fumble.

    Transactions: Signed a six-year contract with Kansas City (3/3/04) ... Signed a five-year contract with Kansas City (2/10/00) ... Signed a five-year contract with Kansas City (8/12/96) ... Entered the NFL as Kansas City’s first-round choice (28th overall) in the ‘96 NFL Draft.

    Started 10 games at free safety and was inactive for six games … Had 56 tackles (39 solo) with two behind the line, a sack (-4.0 yards), one QB pressure and a pass defensed … Tied a team high with seven tackles at Denver (9/12) ... Totaled nine tackles vs. Carolina (9/19) ... Recorded seven tackles vs. Houston (9/26) ... Registered six tackles in his 100th NFL start at Jacksonville (10/17) ... Collected seven tackles at Tampa Bay (11/7) ... Contributed six tackles and a sack of Aaron Brooks at New Orleans (11/14) ... Suffered a left knee contusion vs. New England (11/22) and did not return … Was inactive for the season’s final six games due to that left knee injury.
    Started 16 games at free safety, earning his initial Pro Bowl berth … Registered 99 tackles (68 solo), a team-high three forced fumbles and a fumble recovery … Also had four QB pressures and nine passes defensed … Had three INTs (125 yards) with two TDs … His two INT return TDs were the most by a Chiefs player since S Charles Mincy had two in ‘92 … Started vs. San Diego (9/7), marking his first regular season game action since 2001 after missing all of 2002 with a broken right leg … Returned an interception off Tommy Maddox for a 46-yard TD vs. Pittsburgh (9/14), his first NFL score. Also forced and recovered a RB Verron Haynes fumble … Forced a RB Tony Hollings fumble at Houston (9/21) ... Was a key figure in the club’s 40-34 OT win at Green Bay (10/12), returning an INT off Brett Favre for a 79-yard TD and forcing a RB Ahman Green fumble in overtime that was recovered by LB Mike Maslowski to set up the Chiefs winning touchdown on the next play … Combined with S Greg Wesley to stop WR Tim Brown at the one-yard line as time expired to preserve a 17-10 victory at Oakland (10/20) ... Intercepted an Alex Van Pelt pass vs. Buffalo (10/26) ... Registered nine tackles at Denver (12/7) ... Contributed 10 tackles vs. Detroit (12/14) ... Started an AFC Divisional Playoff Game vs. Indianapolis (1/11/04), posting six tackles and one QB pressure.
    Missed the entire regular season after suffering a broken right leg in the second quarter of the season’s third preseason game at Seattle (8/24) ... Was placed on injured reserve on August 26th.
    Started all 16 games at free safety … Finished fourth on the team with 115 tackles (73 solo) ... Ranked second on the team with three INTs for 48 yards and also had a sack (-6.0 yards), five tackles for loss, three passes defensed, a forced fumble and four QB pressures … Produced eight tackles at Denver (10/7) ... Racked up a team-high 12 tackles vs. Indianapolis (10/25) ... Intercepted a Doug Flutie pass (25 yards), in addition to producing a sack and strip of Drew Brees at San Diego (11/4) ... Tallied five tackles at the N.Y. Jets (11/11), marking his 500th career takedown … Recorded nine stops vs. Seattle (11/25) ... Collected a season-high 13 tackles vs. Philadelphia (11/29) ... Intercepted a Rich Gannon pass at Oakland (12/9) ... Had a 23-yard return of a Mark Brunell INT at Jacksonville (12/30).
    Started 16 games at free safety, registering 79 tackles (65 solo), two INTs (0 yards), 2.0 sacks (-5.0 yards), a forced fumble, six passes defensed and a QB pressure … Collected a team-high 10 tackles vs. Indianapolis (9/3) ... Intercepted a Jon Kitna pass at the Chiefs 11-yard line vs. Seattle (10/2) with 0:21 remaining in the game to seal a 24-17 win … Collected a sack of Kurt Warner vs. St. Louis (10/22) ... Had a sack of Kitna at Seattle (10/29) ... Compiled eight tackles and a pass defensed at New England (12/4) ... Got an INT off Steve Beuerlein vs. Carolina (12/10) ... Poked the ball loose from RB Mike Anderson following a 25-yard run vs. Denver (12/17) on the Broncos initial drive.
    Started 15 games at free safety, registering 106 tackles (76 solo), one INT (five yards), a career-best eight QB pressures, a fumble recovery, a forced fumble and five passes defensed … Also had one stop on special teams … Produced a team-high 12 tackles at Chicago (9/12) ... Intercepted a Brian Griese pass vs. Denver (9/19) ... Missed the first game of his NFL career when he was inactive at San Diego (10/3) due to a quadriceps injury, snapping a streak of 35 consecutive starts dating back to the ‘97 season-opener … Recovered a FB Mike Alstott fumble at Tampa Bay (11/4), adding 11 tackles … Forced a TE Derrick Walker fumble that was picked up by CB Cris Dishman and returned for a 40-yard, game-tying TD in a 37-34 win at Oakland (11/28) ... Credited with a pivotal pass defensed in the fourth quarter at Denver (12/5) when he delivered a bone-jarring hit on WR Rod Smith … Tallied 12 tackles vs. Pittsburgh (12/18).
    Started at free safety in all 16 games … Was third on the team with 124 stops (72 solo) and added a career-high 13 passes defensed, as well as four QB pressures … Had two INTs for 47 yards, three forced fumbles and three tackles on special teams … Had 10 tackles at Jacksonville (9/13) ... Tallied a fumble recovery vs. Seattle (10/4) ... Despite suffering a broken bone in his right hand at New England (10/11), still recorded a season-high 15 tackles, the second-best tally of his career … Had six screws and a metal plate inserted in his hand and started the next contest vs. Pittsburgh (10/26) ... Tallied 12 stops and a forced fumble at Seattle (11/8) ... Picked off Craig Whelihan for a 19-yard return at San Diego (11/22) ... Forced a RB Terrell Davis fumble and recovered a blocked Jason Elam FG at Denver (12/6) ... Picked off a Troy Aikman pass for a 28-yard return vs. Dallas (12/13) ... Had a career-best four passes defensed at the N.Y. Giants (12/20).
    Started all 16 games at free safety, finishing third on the club with a career-high 132 tackles (85 solo) to go along with four INTs (57 yards), two fumble recoveries, a forced fumble and seven passes defensed … Also added a sack (-2.0 yards), seven QB pressures and four special teams stops … Recorded eight tackles, a pair of passes defensed and a special teams stop in his first NFL start at Denver (8/31) ... Had a career-high three QB pressures vs. Buffalo (9/14) ... Picked off Kerry Collins in the end zone at Carolina (9/21) for his first career INT (27 yards) ... Earned AFC Defensive Player of the Week honors vs. Seattle (9/28) after recording a team-high 11 tackles, adding a pass defensed and his first career sack in that contest. Picked off Warren Moon in OT, setting up the game-winning FG … Recovered a QB Tony Banks fumble at St. Louis (10/26) ... Got a 17-yard INT return off Kordell Stewart vs. Pittsburgh (11/3) ... Posted 11 tackles at Jacksonville (11/9) and followed that up with a career-best 17 tackles (11 solo) vs. Denver (11/16) ... Forced a WR Mike Pritchard fumble which he recovered at Seattle (11/23) ... Earned AFC Defensive Player of the Month honors for his efforts in November … Had 10 tackles and an INT of Billy Joe Hobert in the end zone vs. New Orleans (12/21) ... Started the club’s playoff contest vs. Denver (1/4/98), totaling four tackles, a forced fumble and a sack of John Elway.
    Saw duty in all 16 games, primarily on special teams … Played on defense in five contests … Ranked second on the squad with 25 KO returns for 581 yards (23.2 avg.) with a long of 66 … Finished fourth on the team with 16 special teams stops and added nine tackles on defense … Had a season-high three special teams tackles and five KO returns for 108 yards at Houston (9/1) ... Was credited with four KO returns for a season-high 159 yards vs. San Diego (9/29), including a career-best 66-yard runback … First NFL action on defense came vs. Pittsburgh (10/7) ... Posted five tackles vs. Seattle (10/17) ... Saw duty as a nickel CB vs. San Diego (11/24), at Oakland (12/9) and vs. Indianapolis (12/15).
    College Bio
    Spent two seasons at Memphis after transferring from NE Mississippi Community College … In two campaigns with the Tigers, he tallied 219 tackles (125 solo), 10.0 tackles for loss, seven INTs, 17 passes defensed, three fumble recoveries, three forced fumbles and with one TD … Started 11 games at strong safety as a senior, leading the club with 120 tackles (67 solos) and ranking seventh in the nation with six INTs … Also had 10 pass deflections, a fumble recovery and three forced fumbles with one TD, as well as six kickoff returns for 182 yards (30.3 avg.) ... Earned second-team All-America recognition from Football News and was a first-team All-Independent selection by AP … Opened 11 games as a junior, producing 99 tackles (58 solo), seven pass deflections, as well as a fumble recovery … Started 11 contests at NE Mississippi in Booneville, Mississippi in ‘93, racking up 109 total tackles (77 solo), 15 pass deflections, two INTs, a fumble recovery and a forced fumble … Returned 16 KOs for 285 yards (17.8 avg.) and also brought back 16 punts for 152 yards (9.5 avg.) ... Majored in Communications at Memphis.
    Personal Bio
    • Served as a defensive back and wide receiver at Melrose High School in Memphis, Tennessee.

    • Caught 20 passes for 584 yards (29.2 avg.) and scored eight TDs as a senior.

    • Was a first-team All-Shelby Metro selection.

    • Named to the Memphis Commercial Appeal Super 24 team and the all-state team.

    • Full name: Jerome Harlan Woods.

    • Nicknamed “Romey”.

    • Married, wife Dana with a daughter Jada (8) and a son Dylan (3).

    • The Woods’ reside in Overland Park, Kansas.
  15. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Trade Vollers for a pick!
  16. BlueStar II

    BlueStar II New Member

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    Since I live in the KC area, I've had the chance to see Woods play. I believe he was a first round pick of the Chiefs, but frankly, he hasn't been the same since his injury (I "believe" it was his knee) which cost him the entire season, and he's never been the same since. "If"... we could get Woods at a good price, that would be the "only" reason I would have any interest in Woods, because I don't think he's anywhere near the same player he was before his injury. Again, that's just a...IMO. I'm more optimistic about bringing in Fujita from KC than I am about the possibility of Woods.
  17. Westcoasthabsfan

    Westcoasthabsfan Well-Known Member

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    Two words: TOO OLD.... let the youngsters play
  18. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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    pass on woods, let davis play.
  19. sad_otter

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    If he's willing to be a backup, bring him in.
    If we can trade Morgan for him, all the better.
  20. smashmouth

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    3 words: Depth-Experience-Insurance

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