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Any Top CB's next draft?

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by burmafrd, Nov 1, 2006.

  1. TwoSteppinJJ

    TwoSteppinJJ New Member

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    Good for you. I think it might be hard to find links that say "SEPT 12,2003 NEWMAN DIDNT PLAY GOOD" "SEPT 19,2003 NEWMAN PLAYED OKAY BUT GOT BURNT ONCE" "SEPT 26,2003 NEWMAN PLAYED BAD AND TOOK A DUMB PASS INT CALL" etc etc etc....
  2. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall Newman struggling as a rookie. Were there moments he got beat? Sure, but not enough to say he struggled. He was pretty solid back there for the vast majority of the season. He was one of the main reasons that Dallas led the league in pass defense and were 2nd in points allowed.

    Now maybe you can say he struggled his second season. He gave up some big plays, but even at that I did not think he played as poorly as some made it out to be. There was no pass rush that season and no safety help. People think the pass rush is poor this season. There was nothing in 2004. Wiley was a joke and just got in the way.
  3. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    I can see right now that our troll does not have anything to back him up.
  4. TwoSteppinJJ

    TwoSteppinJJ New Member

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    Yeah I agree... But im just proving a point because this guy thinks hes been great since day 1. He did struggle a bit in his first season and some in his 2nd season. But not to the point he was a liability. He played pretty good coverage just made some mental mistakes. This guy is trying to say hes been a pro bowler pretty much since day one.

    Lets not forget that in his rookie season he only had one pick until like week 15 where he owned Washington for 3 Ints. So thats 14 games without a turnover. Not that im all about the numbers im just saying those arent exactly pro bowl numbers and he wasnt playing like a pro bowler in his rookie year. Pro Bowls mean nothing anyways.
  5. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Once again, I'm am considerably less than impressed with your talent evaluation skills, so your opinion doesn't really count for a lot with me...

    Never mind that the facts don't bear out your so-called "analysis"...

    Truth is, you don't do analysis, you throw out random thoughts like "Jammer is a bust", and "Brooks is a thug"... that's called expressing your OPINION, not analysis...

    And your opinion pretty much stinks...
  6. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Said the man who has never brought a FACT to any of his bogus arguments...

    The plain truth is, Newman DID have a rather miserable sophomore slump, and he took a fair amount of criticism for it... he's clearly turned it around now, but it doesn't change that he struggled in 04...
  7. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Silver, so does yours. So we are even.
    Jammer was drafted 5th. He has never shown the performance to justify that pick. As far as I am concerned he is a bust. Ellis has never justified his draft status either- but he has played well and this year one could almost say that he has finally shown to be worth his pick. But till now he could be regarded as a bust as well.
    Newman was mentioned for Def Rookie of the Year and that would have put him in the pro bowl more then likely.
  8. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    This from a man who has zero credibility his own self...
  9. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Silver- I was talking about his rookie year. You do read posts, don't you?
  10. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus Zone Supporter

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    :hammer:
  11. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Silver- really you must learn some self control. Its not that hard. Just take a few deep breaths. Calm yourself. Don't want you to stroke out. I get too much amusement from you.
  12. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    As always, you're the troll... and all I ever hear when I read one of your posts is "noise"... :D
  13. Cogan

    Cogan Active Member

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    I don't think that the FS position has been settled yet. That is more important right now than CB. There is a FS out of Wyoming who is getting more & more press-John Wendling, 6-1, 222, 4.38.

    Man, this kid is a specimen. He has the body to play either Safety position, & the speed to play CB. He is also one of the brightest players in next year's draft. Right now, he's looking to go in the 2-3 rd. range, but I have a feeling he will be low 1, high 2 before it's all over. Man, if we could finally find that speedster ball hawk in the middle to free our best defensive player, (Roy W.) to do what he does best-play in the box & create havoc behind the LOS.

    This kid just put on 18 lbs. of muscle over the winter without losing his amazing speed-4.38. With that kind of speed, he could make up a lot of space in a hurry.
  14. kevwun

    kevwun New Member

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    The one UT senior I want the Cowboys to draft above all others is Justin Blalock. I don't know if he's going to end up at guard or tackle in the NFL, but he's going to be really good for a long time.
  15. Frozen700

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    exactly newman did good his rookie season...his sophmore season..was pretty bad...and for these reasons......

    1)we had no right corner back...so wed usually play a safety closer to that side which would leave newman in 1 on 1 situations more than half the day...and Champ Bailey could barely handle that, when he first went to denver(the same season newman struggled, bailey was getting beat in man)

    2) if u remember..they were saying that newman was playing the whole season with a banged up knee.

    so there u go
  16. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    Antoine Cason from Arizona. I think he's a better cover corner than Chris McAlister was. Big, fast, and can do it all.
  17. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    He's started 55 straight games for the Chargers, and is their top cornerback... perhaps your expectations are just a wee bit too high...
  18. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    LOL... like I'm gonna take advice from the likes of you...
  19. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Blalock may be the best of the offensive linemen that UT has sent to the pros in the Mack Brown era... he's big, he's agile, and unlike the other "marquee" linemen they had drafted, he's both disciplined and nasty...
  20. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    And I'm talking about his entire career... which includes his sophomore season, when for whatever reasons, he went through a bit of a "sophomore slump"...

    When analyzing a player's game, I think it's important to consider ALL of his play, don't you?? Picking and choosing which seasons you want to discuss is an easy way to shape an argument to suit your theory, but it's not particularly truthful...

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