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Anyone remember these comments from Jimmy Johnson?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Houstonboys13, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. Houstonboys13

    Houstonboys13 Member

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  2. T-RO

    T-RO Well-Known Member

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  3. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    This guy had some sort of crystal ball, or something.
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  4. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    LOL at the guy holding the "put in tebow" sign.
  5. Reverend Conehead

    Reverend Conehead Well-Known Member

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    Johnson never claimed that. Johnson brought in Steve Walsh when we needed someone to back up Aikman and perhaps a little to light a fire under his butt. However, Aikman played unless hurt. We ended up needing Steve Walsh when Aikman did in fact get hurt that year. Walsh led us to our only victory that year. Plus, at the time Aikman was unproven. Being great in college is no guarantee someone will be great in the pros -- just ask Ryan Leaf. Johnson was willing to allow for competition in case Aikman wasn't the real deal, but he never claimed Walsh was better. I
  6. T-RO

    T-RO Well-Known Member

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    The Cowboys burned a first rounder on Walsh when they had just secured Aikman. That tells you everything. JJ didn't really know what he had w/Troy.
  7. CooterBrown

    CooterBrown Well-Known Member

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    I remember questioning that at the time, but hindsight being what it is, it makes sense now. The one thing a team MUST have to be consistently competitive year after year is a franchise QB. The Cowboys needed one and If you spend two first rounders on a QB you have doubled your odds of finding one. Walsh wasn't, Troy was. If they had been drafted in reverse order, nobody would have said that they "burned a first rounder" on Aikman when they already had Walsh.
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  8. pugilist

    pugilist dwarecwby311

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    wow, had no idea Jimmy would ever say something so stupid..

    just stick to pre-game motivational speeches Jimmy..
  9. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    JJ made good getting 1st, 2nd, and 3rd from NO for him. I would say that was bigger fleecing than the Walker trade. At least walker was a proven commodity that the Vikes just used wrong.
  10. Eskimo

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    Johnson did okay after the fact with Walsh.

    However, that #1 pick he used in the Supplemental draft would have been the #1 overall pick in the draft that year and was worth more than the package we got for Walsh. We would have allegedly drafted Junior Seau had we kept that pick.
  11. Reverend Conehead

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    Like I said, no one knew for certain Aikman was going to be great. The point is Johnson was not claiming Walsh was better as was originally stated. He was getting competition at the QB spot and making sure he had a good backup. His success speaks for itself. It's not like the Johnson reign was a bumbling misadventure. The statement that Johnson regarded Walsh as a better QB is flat-out false.
  12. Jenky

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  13. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Jimmy wanted to be sure they hit on at least one of them because there's no guarantees a great college QB will make a successful transition to the NFL.
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  14. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't walsh the first in long line of Miami QBs that just out and sucked in the NFL in the 90's
  15. 03EBZ06

    03EBZ06 Need2Speed

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    So in two years, where are they now? lol

    Freeman shouldn't be starting QB.
  16. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    No offense intended, Reverend, but Jimmy did indeed think Walsh was a better QB. His reasoning: Walsh came from a better program; Walsh had proven leadership qualities (witnessed by Jimmy as his coach); and, Troy had a history of wilting in the heat of competition.

    It's been a long time since I read this about Jimmy and his thoughts on Aikman but if I find it I will post it. Jimmy did like Troy but he did not trust him completely thus his reasoning for going after Walsh; one of them was going to be the QB of the future.
  17. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    This.
  18. Section444

    Section444 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, talk about striking out.
  19. Reverend Conehead

    Reverend Conehead Well-Known Member

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    No offense taken. I would be interested to see those quotes if they're available somewhere. At the time it seemed to me Johnson didn't take Walsh because he thought he was better, but because we needed two good quarterbacks and we needed competition. The proof to me seemed to be in Johnson's preference to play Aikman over Walsh. But if some quote from him exists that shows he actually thought Walsh was better at some point, I'm not averse to changing my views. I do think with perfect 20/20 hindsight, we can say with certainly that we could have gotten better value from that draft pick. At least with Johnson, though he may find some mistakes he made, overall he was successful. The loss of that draft pick didn't hurt the rebuilding thanks to the genius Herschel Walker trade.
  20. Staubacher

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    A little sad reading those 2011 Bucs forum posts at how excited those fans were about the team, QB, and coach. It's all blown up now just two seasons later.
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