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Barry Church Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Lonestar94, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

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    Exiting this debate. It was debated before. There are a tone of reasons why players go undrafted. Not just the "forty" time. Sorry you don't come into camp and light it up flat out win that job with no talent and being "slow". So enjoy! I know I will enjoy Church having a good year and being the safety Dallas has been missing for years.
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  2. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

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    I said his play was similar to Woodsons I said it his rookie year. I said slap 28 on that kid and he looks like Woodson. What does Church have to gain for lying? So you are saying he is a liar? Obviously he isn't a RKG. I will take his word for it.
  3. Deep_Freeze

    Deep_Freeze Well-Known Member

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    The main similarly he has to Woodson is height and weight.....he hasn't shown anything to deserve that kinda praise. As for the lying bit, if you have ever played or even been around players, its kinda like a girl lying about her weight. She can say whatever she wants, but the scale and mirror tell the truth.

    Players exaggerate their speed all the time, but he does have great instincts for that speed and for that I'm happy about. You can be as fast as you want to be, but if your running in the wrong direction it doesn't matter. Those instincts are why he has the starting job presently, but if JJ shows those instincts along with his superior athletic ability, he could put Church on the bench.
  4. superpunk

    superpunk Benched

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    Church fist bump. Dude is legit.
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  5. texbumthelife

    texbumthelife Well-Known Member

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    I am confused by the people anointing JJ Wilcox because of a couple pre-season plays, but not willing to give Church a shot. I genuinely believe Church could be the best safety this team has had since Woodson under one condition, he stays healthy. He is the best combination of instincts, coverage ability and hitting/tackling we have had in a decade. Give him a chance to show it. I guarantee, he is one of the players the team had in mind when they switched schemes. He is a downhill, reactionary player. He is going to turn heads this season if he stays healthy. Bookmark me.
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  6. blackbull

    blackbull Well-Known Member

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    TO ran a 4.5 40. Who cares? Church can play.
  7. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I like Church, a lot, but he's not going to be a 5-time probowler like Roy Williams was for us early on. I'll be happy if he just delivers on the promise he showed in camp and early in the season last year.
  8. Crown Royal

    Crown Royal Insulin Beware

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    I like him because from what I've seen, he seems to understand his responsibilities, and looked to be a true zone safety. Sensabaugh and McCray were horrible the farther you got them from the LoS. Church actually understands his responsibilities from what I can tell.
  9. Arkyvarminter

    Arkyvarminter Active Member

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    This isn't going to be very popular around here but IMO Church is not that good and I never thought he was. Comparing him to Woody is silly. Comparing him to RW is silly. He has done nothing but he can always improve and hopefully prove me wrong. He wouldn't start but for a handful of teams. We are weak at both safety positions and most know it but won't admit it. Now, flame away.........
  10. blackbull

    blackbull Well-Known Member

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    No flame, just disagreement. Why can't he be a Kam chancellor? Pro bowl caliber depending on how the team/defense does. Church can play. Is John Lynch any more athletic than Church? You people are caught up in measurables. I love Church's game.
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  11. shank

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    I almost feel he needs to be starter because not else there to choose from. Wilcox needs seasoning. Matt Johnson well...won't go there. Allen probably is your other starter.
  12. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Has proven nothing yet.
  13. pacboyX

    pacboyX Member

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    Was never too comfident in Church, hes a strong hitter and seems to know whats he is supposed to do (he is who we thought he was lol). But if you look at our entire defense..to this point what do we have covering our deep ball? Who will chase djack deep? Carr, Claiborne, Scandrick, Allen..I am not confident in the athletic ability of our starting secondary plain n simple..well maybe the front 7 will do enough to prevent deep ball assault ha.

    Does anyone know how the young safeties are doing in Deadskins camp?
  14. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    Oddly enough, the only safety I'm confident in is Allen. Church, Wilcox and Johnson show promise, though.
  15. Lonestar94

    Lonestar94 Well-Known Member

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    Some of our corner are pretty fast, Scandrick has a 4.32 and Carr has a 4.4 in the 40 yard dash. The thing that concerns me is the speed of the safeties.
  16. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    They IRd Thomas recently. Haven't heard one way or another about Rambo.
  17. The Natural

    The Natural Well-Known Member

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    All off a 3 game sample?
  18. blackbull

    blackbull Well-Known Member

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    He can play dude. Keep doubting.
  19. The Natural

    The Natural Well-Known Member

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    Doubting? I asked you a question
  20. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    IIRC it took woodson almost 3 seasons to become what he became. He was ST player and nickel backer. THe owrst thing I can say about church is my impression of him is incomplete.

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