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Be Careful what you wish for about letting Garrett go

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Joe Rod, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. Joe Rod

    Joe Rod When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong

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    I've seen multiple threads about canning JG and bringing in a new coach. Given the person hiring the next coach, most of the names being floated around have no chance unless Jerry decides his health would not permit him to finish out his "coaching circle" hiring pattern:

    Jerry coaching circle version 1.0:
    • Jimmy (taskmaster with his hands on everything, helped stock the roster with talent)
    • Barry (extreme players coach, playoff success with the other coaches core)
    • Chan (cerebral coach that never elevated his team above an average bunch)
    • Campo (lovable defensive coach that failed horrifically as a Head Coach)

    Jerry coaching circle 2.0 is on the same path:
    • Parcells (taskmaster with his hands on everything, helped stock the roster with talent)
    • Wade (extreme players coach, only playoff victory since Barry with the other coaches core)
    • Garrett (cerebral coach that never elevated his team above an average bunch)
    • ???????? (lovable defensive coach that will fail horrifically as a Head Coach)
    That's right folks, Rod Marinelli could very well be the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Mr. 0-16 has made an injury ravaged group of street free agents play hard, so Jerry will give him strong consideration to work his coaching Magic on your Dallas Cowboys. Rich Bisiaccia will be given consideration just like Joe DeCamillis was, but Jerry will ultimately feel that Rod is the best choice.

    The only other candidate that I could see Jerry going for is Mike Zimmer, who was on the defensive staff here for many years.

    Enjoy the coaching speculation, but be ready for an underwhelming hire people!
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  2. BoysFan4ever

    BoysFan4ever Well-Known Member

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    He's got to know fans are getting tired of this 8-8 crap.

    I think he'll go after a big name guy.

    Regardless it seems fans think Jason's seat is hot.
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  3. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    At this point I would take the Madden national champion. Probably knows more about passing offense.
  4. Gadfly22

    Gadfly22 Active Member

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    I would have no qualms (well maybe a few) if Mike Zimmer were the next Cowboys head coach.
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  5. The Natural

    The Natural Well-Known Member

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    Im trying to think of a potential hire that could be worse than Garrett...I'm stumped
  6. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    I still think Garrett will be here a long time. If he sneaks a division title out of this miserable division, his career track will be very Marvin Lewis-like (3 8-8 seasons and 1 division title in first four years). Strap in for the 10 year Garrett experience.
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  7. WV Cowboy

    WV Cowboy Waitin' on the 6th

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    This is the bothersome part.

    It is painfully obvious that we aren't getting any better under this regime. Although if Jerry thinks we are, we will stick with JG.

    But even if Jerry decides to replace JG, he is either too stupid or too stubborn to bring in the coach that this franchise needs.

    He either can't pick a quality coach, or will not pick one that will over-ride him and get credit for it. He could not stand that.

    I'm thinking we are screwed.
  8. fifaguy

    fifaguy Well-Known Member

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  9. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    Except for that whole 22 years of coaching experience and elite Super Bowl winning coordinator stint, sure.
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  10. The Natural

    The Natural Well-Known Member

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    I'm still waiting for you to dig up those posts
  11. IrishAnto

    IrishAnto Well-Known Member

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    You may not be able to think of any, but I've no doubt there are many and our lovable GM is sure to fine one.
  12. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    I like Marvin Lewis and have no doubt he's a better coach than Garrett, but come on. Our standards are no better than the Bengals'?
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  13. Vintage

    Vintage The Cult of Jib

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    I am not sure which is worse....some of the coaches Jerry has hired or the suggestions this board has floated.

    Tough call.
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  14. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough, I should have said head coaching career. It's reassuring to know I can always count on your unrelenting negativity to clean up my mistakes.
  15. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It's tough to beat the Dave Campo hire, honestly. But, yeah, there's a lot of overstating absurd opinions for dramatic effect going on right now.
  16. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, when you consider Garrett's issues, you have to also consider Jerry and his relationship with the Head Coach.

    My feeling is that Garrett knows how to deal with Jerry about as well as anyone could. I think the combination of Garrett and Stephen Jones minimize Jerry's actual input to the football operations while still letting Jerry appear to run the show. Jerry's input is never going to be Zero.

    Parcells overbearing nature caused Jerry to need to show off and resulted signing TO.

    Wade offered no resistance to Jerry which resulted in the 2009 draft and the Roy Williams trade.

    If Garrett is fired, Jerry could do a lot of damage while the new Head Coach is figuring out how to deal with Jerry.

    The only coach that I'm confident could take charge of the Cowboys while still letting Jerry be Jerry is Sean Payton, but he's not available.

    I just don't know if a guy like David Shaw at Stanford would be prepared to deal with Jerry.

    Maybe a guy like Mike Zimmer that has already worked for Jerry could do it, but I just don't know if he is much different than Garrett.
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  17. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    You should research Zimmer a little more. He couldn't be more different from Garrett.
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  18. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I've said as much previously, but this is exactly what I would expect would happen. We'd fire JG, replace him with an out-of-left-field candidate, and probably see Jerry front-and-center justifying the reasoning for the next 6 months while that poor sap was eaten alive by ESPN. And the same fans who actually think Jason Garrett is the worst coach in the league right now will have found a new worst coach, and will be in a positive tizzy trying to sort out whether they hate the new guy more than Jerry Jones, or Jerry Jones more than the new guy.

    The opposite scenario, where Jerry hires somebody the masses like, and that person comes in and pulls the team together under these circumstances with this cap and this ailing roster and turns things around is such a remote possibility in my mind that it might as well not exist as an option. Unless, as you suggest, a no-brainer coach were available. And those guys aren't available right now.
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  19. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Garrett may be looked back on as being just as bad if not worse when you compare the rosters each coach had to work with.
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  20. nake

    nake Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Going into the Giants game, if we had Jay Ratliff, Anthony Spencer, Josh Brent, Ben Bass, Brian Waters, Sean Lee, Justin Durant, and J.J. Wilcox all ready to play, and we knew for sure Ware, Austin, and Hatcher were healthy enough to play well, things would be a lot different around here and our coaching staff would be doing a better job.
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