Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by FiveRings, Aug 22, 2013.
Ben Affleck = Nickleback?
Ironically, anyone that cares enough to actually sign a petition is going to see the movie anyways.
I guess nobody remembers when Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker, Michael Keaton as Batman, Christian Bale as Batman, and so on. What a typical fanboy-ish response to something that we haven't even seen yet.
The Ben Affleck I'm familiar with as of late is a damn good director and awesome actor. Here's to hoping he nails it, just to see you fanboys 180 and act like you knew he was the right choice all along.
I highly suggest y'all read this OP-ED by our very own HTownCowboysFan a.k.a. Bill "Jett" Ramey
Read the full OP-ED here: http://www.batman-on-film.com/opinion_by-Jett_shamefull-day-for-Batman-fans-Affleck_8-24-13.html
MMM Podcast #140 Ben Affleck Is Batman: http://www.modernmythmedia.com/2013/08/mmm-podcast-140-ben-affleck-is-batman/
6 Reasons The Internet Is Wrong About Ben Affleck As Batman: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug...nternet-is-wrong-about-ben-affleck-as-batman/
No one thought Keaton would be a good Batman either.
No one wanted Ledger was Joker.
Batman isn't the type of character who needs to be amazingly cast. It's all going to come down to the movie being good or not.
The difference is, Affleck already worked as a comic book hero, there is already a reference for people, and it was TERRIBLE!
Really? That comparison makes your case against Affleck TERRIBLE. There are so many different variables now.
Daredevil was a 20th Century Fox movie and is a Marvel property. Comic Book movies were not anywhere close to the standard that they're made now.
Bringing Daredevil up as a reference to why Affleck will be bad as Batman is a freaking copout.
The fact of the matter is, whether you're pro or against his casting...we don't know how he'll do.
Wait & See for both sides
Please explain these "Variables".
My argument is terrible because DareDevil was done by a different studio? Like, Wowzers Scoobs! Ben Affleck is not a good actor he is average, might be a good director but not a good actor. When I heard Affleck was cast, George Clooney being Batman went through my mind. It is not about the script, it is about the actor for me, in Superman vs Batman. IMO, this movie is going to be just like Man of Steel and Avengers, action, action and more action. Yes it will make money, but no it will not be a good movie.
Marvel isn't really a Marvel property, Disney owns some of the Marvel characters, and so does Fox.
Heath Ledger had 1 big movie under his belt, Brokeback Mountain, Keaton worked with Burton on Beetlejuice and was a good choice. Affleck on the other hand is an established actor. And really, how had is it to play a person from Boston!?! Exactly what movies are you basing your opinion on, as of late then? Argo? One movie? Maybe we will get lucky and his wife will be Batgirl in the movie, then they can spin it off into her own movie, since Elektra was also such a good movie.
I think he'll do fine being Bruce Wayne but he pull off being menacing character?
Damn fine playing Ben Affleck in the movies. If that's the criteria for being fine or as some said, great.
Captain America was The Human Torch from a terrible set of movies, didn't seem to hurt the Avengers any. So I'm not really sure what that argument amounts to.
Batman doesn't require a good actor. There isn't much acting to the role. Bruce Wayne doesn't require much, and Batman requires less. Outside of being in one of the worse movies ever made, I'm interested in hearing why you didn't like Clooney as Batman, as far as acting goes.
Super Hero movies are ALL about the writing. A super heroes actor really doesn't have a huge influence on how good the movie is because Super Hero roles (on film) don't call for any sort of deep acting jobs. They are fairly simplistic and transparent characters (on film). Of all the super hero movies I can think of right now, the only one I can really think of with an actor that isn't interchangeable without affecting the movie's quality is Tony Stark/Robert Downey Jr.
Man of Steel didn't require much in the acting department. Neither did Thor/Captain America/Amazing Spiderman. Christain Bale certainly didn't have to call on any of his acting chops for the Batman Role.
Don't get me wrong. Affleck is FAR from my first choice, nor would he have even been on my list. But the outcry all over the internet is just silly as the actor playing batman isn't really important to how good/bad the movie is going to be.
After complaining about Affleck you then segue into how the movie is just going to be another typical Action movie and bad. I don't see how this point has anything to do with Ben Affleck. And yes, your point about it being another ACTION ACTION ACTION movie will be absolutely correct, IF the writing/script are bad, not IF one of the superheroes doesn't have an amazing actor.
IF the writing/script is bad, the movie is going to be crap regardless of the actor. If it's good, it's going to be good regardless of the actors.
Captain America was an OK movie, the best out of all the set up movies for the Avengers(really not saying much). Batman requires an actor that you can believe is menacing. Clooney and Affleck are not. Bale and Keaton were believable. Although I like Clooney, his Batman was more Hollywood pretty boy. The Thor movie was terrible as were all of the Hulk movies, and Avengers was too action packed for my taste. Man of Steel was soooooo wrong, and I am not a fan of the movie but it was entertaining from an action standpoint, just like Avengers. The outcry for Affleck is not silly, go watch some of his movies, other than Argo(which he was ok in), you can not pick one movie and tell me he was awesome in it. And pick a movie were he doesn't play a Bostonian.
A perfect example for me, where the writing was terrible, but I believed the actor was the character was the Punisher with Thomas Jane, he was menacing.
Actually, there was a huge uproar when Ledger was cast. Here's a sample: http://www.moviecitizens.com/fanboys-initial-reaction-to-heath-ledger-being-cast-as-the-joker/
Fair enough. I liked Dogma, and IMDB gives it a 7.3 out of 10, which is a very respectable score. Agree to disagree on the casting choice. It's going to come down to the script and director long before the casting choices make or break this movie.
Because Adam West wanted to much money?
I dont understand this:
Christian Bale, while I thought the trilogy was good. Maybe pretty good. It is an established start for the eventual Justice League movie. Why not just piggy back his 3 movies and now MoS?
Affleck is a draw but I dont like it. I would rather have Bale, not a ULTIMATE BatMan choice like Downey was for Iron Man. But it should continue with him as Batman.
I like what you are thinking here. I thought the 3rd Batman was the worst. I thought Nolan left a big question mark with the last one, and kind of set up being in MoS with a Robin or a Nightwing. You could of written in Superman flew in and saved him from the Bat when it was carrying the nuke out to sea. It just seems like that was a giant tease and a wasted story line now.
Nice idea you got there.
SuperMan saves Batman in BatCopter EXCEPT they said that Bruce fixed autopilot with patch. STILL I like it.
MoS part 2 could open with Bruce saying, "I dont know... I was ready to go BOOM with the copter and me in it then all of a sudden this flying dude pulled me from copter and soared sky high.
It could work. Its a superhero movie, we can suspend our disbelief... we do it already
I forgot about that part... Still the Nightwing thing could work. I just don't see how superhuman individual fights a human, but whatever.
It definitely set up the BatMan and Robin for the Justice League.