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Boston.com: Feminists, the choice is obvious

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by Maikeru-sama, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    Feminists, the choice is obvious

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    DEAR FELLOW feminists,

    more stories like thisYes, I qualify. Like some of you, I grew up in an era where a woman president was an impossibility, where there were no women doctors, few women in positions of power, no women professors. I went to a coeducational college, where, although women got higher grades than men, we never directed plays, edited the newspaper, or were allowed to lead an organization. We washed dishes regularly in our dorms, while our fellow male students had maids clean their rooms for them. We had male professors who openly derided the idea of women scientists. We graduated and became secretaries; the men graduated and became reporters for The New York Times. I raised my son when there was no child care, was raped before there were rape crisis centers or anyone to talk to.

    I get it.

    I marched for women's rights, helped found the first feminist group in Cambridge, and like some of you, danced for joy when Geraldine Ferraro was nominated for vice president.

    But I also grew up in an era when an African-American president was an impossibility, when African-Americans in the South were shot for having the temerity to vote. I worked for civil rights, registered black voters. Later, I witnessed busing in Boston, where angry white mobs stoned school buses filled with terrified black children, where people of color were never in power.

    I get it.

    I support Barack Obama for president. It's OK that you have supported Hillary Clinton. I get it, I really do. What I don't get, can't get, is seeing some of you riled up Clinton supporters threatening to vote for McCain.

    Let me get this straight; you consider yourself a Democrat and a feminist. Yet rather than vote for a man who supports a woman's right to choose, children's healthcare, and an end to the war in Iraq, you would vote for a man who voted against all of these things.

    You would vote for a man who is promising to nominate far-right activists for the Supreme Court, a man who votes consistently against choice, affirmative action, and workers' rights.

    You would vote for a man who supports President Bush on most major issues vs. a man whose positions are quite similar to Clinton's.

    I just don't get it.

    Obama followed the rules, took his name off the ballot in Michigan, and didn't campaign in Florida or the Great Lakes State when his party told him not to. Meanwhile Clinton, who said at the time that those votes "shouldn't count" ended up yelling that they should.

    Obama has generally taken the high road; he has criticized some of Clinton's policies, but never sunk to the level of personal attack as her campaign has done, playing on race and questioning his patriotism. He never mentioned that the Clintons consulted the Rev. Jeremiah Wright over their marital problems, at a time when she was attacking him for his association with Wright. He started out with less money, less support from party insiders, less name recognition, and he won. Yet you are so angry at him, you would rather vote for a man who would deny health insurance to your children? A man who would send your children to die in an endless war?

    OK, you would dance in the streets to have a woman president. I would dance in the streets to have a woman or an African-American president. Both of these would show us something dramatically changed about America. Most of all, I want a president with integrity, and to me, Barack Obama is that candidate.

    OK, you're deeply aggrieved that your candidate, who you think is entitled to the nomination, seems to have lost to someone who played fair and won.

    I say, get over it. Sometimes your candidate loses. (My candidates almost always lose). Then, you vote for the next best candidate. You don't pout and whine and vote for somebody you really don't believe in. You don't stamp your feet and refuse to vote.

    In short, you grow up.

    Susan Jhirad is a professor of English at North Shore Community College.

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  2. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    I think the author makes some good points, however alot of women that supported Senator Clinton, whether real or perceived feel like she was railroaded because she is a woman and some will further claim that some of what they call "the more obvious attacks against" because she is a woman should have been donouced by Democratic Party Leaders.

    Suffice it to say, if indeed they have a gripe with the Democratic Party, the best way to make it known is to hurt them where it will be felt most, at the Voting Stations.

    But I think they need to not vote at all if they do have complaints because voting for a person that is totally opposite to what you believe in because you are bitter at your party is pretty irresponsible in my opinion.
  3. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    I stated in another thread that it did not make much since to go and vote for someone that does not support your views instead of someone that does. If they are mad because a MAN beat out their woman, why go vote for another MAN who does not even fall in line with your politics.

    However, this is all about being mad and nothing more. I seriously doubt a large enough group will follow through with it. It will be like these Hollywood actors saying they will leave the country if so and so is elected...when they rarely ever do when it comes down to it.

    Most of this is just some people venting and most of that will cool down later.
  4. Bach

    Bach Benched

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    One muslim supporting another, go figure.
  5. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    An extremist and propogandist spreading more lies, go figure.
  6. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    This is what I would never get if those people voted for McCain.

    Honestly I think when all is said and done and they calm down...they will realize why would I vote for a guy who doesn't want the same things I do when Obama does.

    It would be the ultimate in stupidity.
  7. Bach

    Bach Benched

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    oh lighten up maikeru ;)
  8. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    Yeah, I know I need too.

    But I think it has been proven that he isn't a Muslim.

    A guy by the name of Jerimiah Wright told me :D .
  9. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    This is the very reason we could never have Hillary as the President...darn women and their vengeful and mad state have trouble letting things go.

    <runs and hides from WG>




    ;)
  10. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Well you know what they say...

    Hell hath no fury...

    :p:
  11. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    Like a woman on Maury when she does not get the test result in her favor? :p:
  12. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    Fixed.


    Yeah I said it. Who wants some? :cool:
  13. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    My wife taught me a long time ago to just back away...

    :p:
  14. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Home alone reference here.
  15. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Not me, ma'am... momma didn't raise no fools...
  16. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    The feminists lost all credibility when they continued to support Billy boy after the Lewsinski mess. The same ones that hounded out a US senator (republican of course) for about the same thing looked the other way on Slick Willy. That was probably the only good thing to come out of the whole sad situation- the end of the feminists movement so called moral authority. Or of any other kind of authority for that matter.

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