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Bradshaw calls Peyton a Playoff choker

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  1. fredp22

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    I think Hollywood Henderson's quote about Bradshaw fits in well for this story



    Bradshaw on Peyton: If you like losing Super Bowls, he’s your guy

    Posted by Michael David Smith on June 19, 2014, 12:17 PM EDT
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    Former Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw says current Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning is great — as long as you stop watching after the regular season ends.

    Bradshaw said during his one-man show, America’s Favorite Dumb Blonde, that he views Manning as a regular-season star and a playoff choker.

    “Peyton Manning, considered the best quarterback to play the game today. Nobody would argue with that — if you like winning good during the season and losing Super Bowls, that’s your guy,” Bradshaw said, via PFT Commenter.

    Bradshaw rarely misses an opportunity to say that quarterbacks are judged based on winning Super Bowls, a viewpoint that may be slightly self-serving considering that Bradshaw, with four Super Bowl rings, is tied with Joe Montana for the most for any quarterback.

    Of course, Bradshaw won those Super Bowl rings because he was on the best teams, not because he himself was the best quarterback. Although Bradshaw does have two Super Bowl MVPs to his credit, the 1970s Steelers won Super Bowls first and foremost with their defense. People forget that in 1974, the year the Steelers won their first Super Bowl, Bradshaw was only the starter for half the regular season, and the Steelers actually had a better record in the games he missed than the games he started. People forget that if Bradshaw hadn’t played so badly in so many playoff games, the Steelers could have won more than four Super Bowls: Among Bradshaw’s postseason stat lines were a 5-for-10, 80-yard, one-touchdown, two-interception game in a loss to the Dolphins, a 12-for-25, 167-yard, two-touchdown, three-interception game in a loss to the Raiders, a 14-for-35, 176-yard, zero-touchdown, one-interception game in another loss to the Raiders, and a 19-for-37, 177-yard, one-touchdown, three-interception game in a loss to the Broncos.

    For a guy who has a reputation as a clutch performer in big games, Bradshaw sure did turn in a lot of multiple-interception games in playoff losses.

    But while Manning’s passing stats dwarf Bradshaw’s, and Manning’s regular-season accomplishments (including five MVPs and seven first-team All-Pros) far surpass those of Bradshaw (one MVP and one All-Pro), Bradshaw does have those four shiny rings on his fingers, while Manning only has one. That’s something Bradshaw will continue to remind audiences of, every chance he gets.
  2. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Of course Bradshaw says that.
    Easy for the beneficiary some of the best defenses and WRs in NFL history to. Say that.
    Not to mention the game-changing events that were totally out his control that happened in some of his games.
    The immaculate reception
    The Jackie Smith end zone drop
    Etc, etc
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  3. WPBCowboysFan

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    Im sure the E-Lie Lovers Club members that post here could tell you all about how clutch Terry was and that he won when the games mattered most. They might even try to convince you that he made the immaculate deception happen, or he put some voodoo hex on Jackie Smith. I mean, after all he has the RINGS!

    Hey even this guy got a ring when the Mavs got rings and he never made a shot or collected a rebound. Never even suited up, but hey, he has a ring! Its all about the rings.

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  4. BoysFan4ever

    BoysFan4ever Well-Known Member

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    Ok Terry. If you say so.
  5. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing Zone Supporter

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    "Among Bradshaw’s postseason stat lines were a 5-for-10, 80-yard, one-touchdown, two-interception game in a loss to the Dolphins, a 12-for-25, 167-yard, two-touchdown, three-interception game in a loss to the Raiders, a 14-for-35, 176-yard, zero-touchdown, one-interception game in another loss to the Raiders, and a 19-for-37, 177-yard, one-touchdown, three-interception game in a loss to the Broncos."

    I never realized just how bad Bradshaw was when fans stated the team won those SBs...:eek: Those are rookie QC numbers for ya
  6. burmafrd

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    look at the fawning the Rapist got- and he set a record for bad passing for a winning QB in the SB. His example alone destroys any argument the romo haters make.
  7. Blackspider214

    Blackspider214 Well-Known Member

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    Well he's not that far off base from many opinions on him. Great regular season QB and withers away in the playoffs.
  8. Yakuza Rich

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    I think he's had a faulty system around him. He's basically the O-Coordinator and play caller for the team. You get into playoff games against better teams and sometimes you need that input from the sidelines. I think I can recall Peyton's offense running a trick play once the entire time I've seen him in his career. So it really relies on him being able to read the defense and call the play based on that. More often than not he can see it, sometimes he can't. And he has won a Super Bowl and has had some awesome postseason performances.




    YR
  9. burmafrd

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    most of the time in the playoffs Manning is on a team with either a poor or mediocre D and that counts so much more that time of year. BUT it is also clear he does not perform as well in playoffs as regular season.
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  10. landroverking

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    Defence won their first SB over the Vikes. TB had no impact.
    The two with the Cowboys where the boys bad luck. Dallas could have won both. Bad calls and Lynn Swan's great if not lucky catches. One more note in SB X Bradshaw couldn't remember the end of the game because of the Larry Cole hit.
  11. DFWJC

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    Most QBs have a far worse QB rating in the playoffs than in the regular season. This is true especially for the QBs who have crazy good rating in the regular season....a Brady or P Manning.

    Fwiw, Manning has a better rating than Brady in both the regular season and the playoffs.

    Incidentally, although Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees have fairly small sample sizes of only 10-11 playoff games (small is relative I guess...wish we had that many), they are two of the few that has an amazing QB rating in both the regular season and the playoffs.
  12. REDVOLUTION

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    You cant say faulty system when the coach allows the qb to run/be the system.

    When things fall apart he(in/during the game) cannot recover. A head coach(outside looking in) in charge would have better chance.
  13. Doomsday101

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    2 words for you Terry, Steel Curtain
  14. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    I like Bradshaw. Someone asked him what his quarterback rating was, he said... "4 Super Bowls" .... Love it!
  15. Doomsday101

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    Terry is a clear cut case that teams win SB not QB. Hell the man once lined up behind gaurd and was told to move over. He threw 212 TD to 210 ints. He played on a team with one of the best defenses the NFL ever had. He could make mistakes and the steel curtain could come through and give him the ball right back. It is much easier to play the position when you know that your defense will shut the opposing team down.
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  16. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    I get it... But while his numbers are nowhere near stat worthy. He had made plays when needed that counts more to me.

    He had a couple of 4th quarter TD's in multiple Super Bowls and put the ball in play got the immaculate reception. How many times was he Super Bowl MVP? His last two Super Bowl appearances.
  17. Doomsday101

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    He made a lot of mistakes that had it not been for the defense of Pitt they would have lost. MVP of SB does not mean jack and not always is the award given to the player who made the biggest impact. By and large QB do get the award but that does not mean they were the best. As for the immaculate reception how is that an accomplishment? He threw a bad pass that bounced off one guy to be snagged by another it was no great feat on his part.

    Bradshaw was damn lucky to be on a team that great, they overcame a lot of his mistakes he was benched on occations.
  18. REDVOLUTION

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    Yeah yeah... Doesn't matter. He helped his team win. Peyton contributes/initiates the snowball effect for losses.
  19. Doomsday101

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    Yes the water boy helped the team as well fact is he was not that great he had no where close to the talent of guys like Elway and Peyton who he has made these remarks about. Hell they knew how to line up under center while that moron was laughed off the field when he was lining up behind the gaurd. He played on an outstanding team and while Terry may want to take the credit he was not that good
  20. Doomsday101

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    Let me say this had Bradshaw played on any other team he would not be wearing any SB rings. Some QB will produce no matter what club they go to Peyton has produced in Indy and Denver

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