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Brandon Marshall: On path to HoF?

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by Cowboy Brian, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Romo 2 Austin Zone Supporter

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    I was in a debate with a friend over this today. I said POSSIBLY if he is on a superbowl winning team or he stays at this level for a long time. He said he is almost there already.


    Opinions?
  2. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    It's tough for WR's to get in the HOF nowadays. Chris Carter just got in and this was his 5th or 6th time on the ballot...
  3. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    nope, he can only get it done when he has QB willing to play backyard ball with him. He sucked in Miami, he sucked in denver after cutler left. No HoF for him faster version of Me-Shawn, malcontent that only one QB can handle.
  4. muck4doo

    muck4doo Well-Known Member

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    Is Art Monk in? If not, there's your answer.
  5. NIBGoldenchild

    NIBGoldenchild Active Member

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    Art Monk is in. Marshall is not Monk though, I don't even think he'll be a HOF candidate.
  6. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I don't know if he'll make the HOF, but you have to admit that he played with JAGs in Denver (post Cutler) and Miami, yet still had 1000 yard seasons. He's had six straight 1000+ yard seasons while catching passes from at least 4 different QBs.
  7. ChldsPlay

    ChldsPlay Well-Known Member

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    Least factual post ever?
  8. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    He was on some pretty horrible teams, he was lucky to get back toa QB that like throwing to him and "got" him. If it wasn't for the fact he was re-united with Cutler, he would be David Boston, Roy Williams, his stats pretty much say I was on sorry teams and I still got stats because we had to chuck the ball 50 times a game because we sucked and were always losing.
  9. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    Yeah pretty clear that you don't even actually bother to watch the games for follow the league. A statement like this shows just how little you've actually paid attention to the game.


    That said I'm not sure that he's even close to the HoF career yet but his career isn't over so it's not even something he or any of his fans actually have to worry about yet.
  10. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    No, he won't make it in.
  11. muck4doo

    muck4doo Well-Known Member

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    I certainly stand corrected.
  12. landroverking

    landroverking Well-Known Member

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    No. Now with regards to Monk. Never thought he should get in before Drew Pearson
  13. jobberone

    jobberone Genetically engineered moderating Orangutan Staff Member

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    Brandon Marshall
    Receiving Rushing
    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Att Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G YScm RRTD Fmb AV
    2006 22 DEN wr 15 15 1 20 309 15.5 2 71 1.3 20.6 2 12 0 6 6.0 0.8 0.1 321 2 1 3
    2007 23 DEN WR 15 16 16 102 1325 13.0 7 68 6.4 82.8 5 57 0 24 11.4 3.6 0.3 1382 7 3 12
    2008* 24 DEN WR 15 15 15 104 1265 12.2 6 47 6.9 84.3 2 -4 0 7 -2.0 -0.3 0.1 1261 6 4 11
    2009* 25 DEN WR 15 15 13 101 1120 11.1 10 75 6.7 74.7 7 39 0 14 5.6 2.6 0.5 1159 10 0 9
    2010 26 MIA WR 19 14 14 86 1014 11.8 3 46 6.1 72.4 2 3 0 4 1.5 0.2 0.1 1017 3 2 7
    2011* 27 MIA WR 19 16 16 81 1214 15.0 6 65 5.1 75.9 1 13 0 13 13.0 0.8 0.1 1227 6 1 11
    2012*+ 28 CHI WR 15 16 16 118 1508 12.8 11 56 7.4 94.3 1 -2 0 0 -2.0 -0.1 0.1 1506 11 2 14
    Career 107 91 612 7755 12.7 45 75 5.7 72.5 20 118 0 24 5.9 1.1 0.2 7873 45 13 67
    4 yrs DEN 61 45 327 4019 12.3 25 75 5.4 65.9 16 104 0 24 6.5 1.7 0.3 4123 25 8 35
    2 yrs MIA 30 30 167 2228 13.3 9 65 5.6 74.3 3 16 0 13 5.3 0.5 0.1 2244 9 3 18
    1 yr CHI 16 16 118 1508 12.8 11 56 7.4 94.3 1 -2 0 0 -2.0 -0.1 0.1 1506 11 2 14

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MarsBr00.htm

    Here is an article comparing 2012's WR finalists with stats for HOF WRs:


    The three wide receivers under consideration for the Class of 2012 all have been Hall of Fame finalists multiple times. This year marks the sixth straight year that Andre Reed has been a finalist while Cris Carter is among the group of 17 finalists for the fifth consecutive year. Tim Brown, who also excelled as a kick return man, has been a finalist three straight times. All three players still rank among the top 10 career leaders in receptions.
    Stats | Honors

    Wide Receiver Finalists for 2012 Election

    Receiving Rushing Punt Returns Kickoff Returns Scoring
    Player Yrs. No. Yds TD No. Yds TD No. Yds. TD No. Yds. TD TD PAT FG TOT
    Tim Brown 17 1,094 14,934 100 50 190 1 326 3,320 1 49 1235 1 103 0 0 620
    Cris Carter 16 1,101 13,899 130 13 41 0 - - - 13 244 0 131 0 0 796
    Andre Reed 16 951 13,198 87 75 500 1 5 12 0 - - - 88 0 0 528

    Wide Receivers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

    Receiving Rushing Punt Returns Kickoff Returns Scoring
    Player Yrs. No. Yds TD No. Yds TD No. Yds. TD No. Yds. TD TD PAT FG TOT
    Lance Alworth 11 542 10,266 85 24 129 2 29 309 0 10 216 0 87 0 0 524
    Raymond Berry 13 631 9,275 68 - - - - - - 2 27 0 68 0 0 408
    Fred Biletnikoff 14 589 8,974 76 - - - - - - - - - 77 0 0 462
    Tom Fears 9 400 5,397 38 5 15 0 - - - - - - 39 12 1 249
    Bob Hayes 11 371 7,414 71 24 68 2 104 1,158 3 23 581 0 76 - - 456
    Elroy Hirsch* 12 387 7,029 60 207 687 4 21 286 1 21 566 1 67 5 4 419
    Michael Irvin 12 750 11,904 65 6 6 0 - - - - - - 65 2 0 392
    Charlie Joiner 18 750 12,146 65 8 22 0 - - - 10 194 0 65 0 0 390
    Steve Largent 14 819 13,089 100 17 83 1 8 68 0 8 156 0 101 2 0 608
    Dante Lavelli* 11 386 6,488 62 2 23 0 - - - 2 10 0 62 0 0 372
    James Lofton 16 764 14,004 75 32 246 1 - - - 1 0 0 76 0 0 456
    Don Maynard 15 633 11,834 88 24 70 - 26 132 0 14 343 0 88 0 0 532
    Tommy McDonald 12 495 8,410 84 17 22 0 73 404 1 51 1,055 0 85 0 0 510
    Bobby Mitchell 11 521 7,954 65 513 2,735 18 69 699 3 102 2,690 5 91 0 0 546
    Art Monk 16 940 12,721 68 63 332 0 - - - 1 10 0 68 0 0 408
    Pete Pihos 9 373 5619 61 9 -4 0 1 26 1 6 66 0 63 0 0 378
    Jerry Rice 20 1,549 22,895 194 87 645 10 - - - 1 6 0 204 0 0 1,232
    John Stallworth 14 537 8,723 63 9 111 1 - - - - - - 64 0 0 384
    Lynn Swann 9 336 5,462 51 11 72 1 61 739 1 3 11 0 53 0 0 318
    Charley Taylor 13 649 9,110 79 442 1,488 11 5 63 0 5 133 0 90 0 0 540
    Paul Warfield 13 427 8,565 85 22 204 0 - - - 1 4 0 86 0 0 516
    *Includes statistics from the All-America Football Conference (1946-1949)

    http://www.profootballhof.com/enshr...2-finalists-comparative-stats-wide-receivers/
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    I'd say he need 400 more catches and 5-7000 more yards to be in the hunt. Four more years like the last would do it. He's actually been fairly consistent with 1000+ yds a year. 10K+ yds, 1k catches, and 100+ TDs will get him votes. He'll have some trouble getting enough votes IMO; if he gets the numbers.

    BTW, check out Joiner's and Lofton's numbers and you'll see why they, Fouts and Winslow are in the HOF; it's also a testament to Coryell's offense. And he should be in the hall.
  14. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    All those you listed had these numbers in in a run first, pass second. Many of the "modern" recievers that made it like Irvin, Carter, Rice would destroy the league with the rules today. Its easier to play WR in the NFL today than it was 10 years ago.
  15. jobberone

    jobberone Genetically engineered moderating Orangutan Staff Member

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    I agree. That's why the numbers have changed. It's taking bigger and bigger numbers.

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