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Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by FLCowboyFan, Mar 30, 2013.

  1. CrownCowboy

    CrownCowboy Active Member

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    I like Phil Costa and his work ethic and attitude. I think that if more players had his work ethic on this team then we'd be a better football team. With that being said, I've watched every snap he has taken with the Dallas Cowboys and the man is not someone that will ever start on an offensive line that will be good enough to carry a team to a Super Bowl.

    He can be a decent back up player in this league but our offensive line has been awful up the middle and that includes the time he was healthy and started at center. He has had flashes. The Baltimore game last year was his best game where we pretty much had a gameplan that was best suited for his strengths ie run blocking but that's about as far as it goes with him.

    From what I've watched, he has a hard time getting his hands on defenders and overextends, often times leading to whiffs. He has some physical limitations that have proven to make him a liability in pass protection, sometimes it has been horrible pass protection.

    Overall and considering that he has only started one full season, I do think that he should stay on the team, provided that he has a good camp and continues to work hard. He has earned that. Perhaps he can develop better skills to pass protect, but physical limitations is what it is. It's time to stop messing around with this offensive line with sub par talent and projects and get some blue chip talent in here any way we can. If we keep trottin' out the Phil Costa's of the world along the offensive line, well I guess we'll get pretty much the same results.
  2. Mansta54

    Mansta54 Well-Known Member

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    What excuse? You're sooooo clueless. HE HASN'T PLAYED ENOUGH TO DETERMINE IF HE CAN HANDLE THE JOB. That's fact, not a excuse. The coaches see him every day and like what he's doing and how he's progessing. Again, what excuse? Smh!!!!
  3. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    no one has questioned his work ethic. By all accounts no one out works him. But physical limitations cannot be always overcome by pure sweat. And that is his problem. It is a shame since it is clear more physically talented players drift in and out without any where near the effort he has made. But it is what it is.
  4. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    none so blind that will not see. He has played enough so that his physical limitations WHICH CANNOT BE CHANGED are clear. He cannot move quick enough; he cannot get set quick enough to get the job done. Only when he can face the man right in front of him can he get it done. And that is not enough. You can whine all you want but that is reality.
  5. Mansta54

    Mansta54 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not whinning at all. Thinking he hasn't played enough is whinning? Obviously the staff feels the same way. Maybe you know more then the staff. Smh!!!
  6. CrownCowboy

    CrownCowboy Active Member

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    Yep. His physical limitations are well documented and have translated onto the field more times than not.

    A quality backup in a pinch is about all he is good for in my opinion. I think we agree that despite that fact that he has only started for one year, it may as well be 10 years. No amount of experience will make his physical limitations go away. He'll always have them thus his ceiling will never go any higher.

    I know I don't need to see anything else from him to know what his potential is. Now I'm not a professional football coach, but I'm sure most know what I'm talking about.
  7. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Wait, it has been brought to my attention that these physical limitations take a long time to recognize. Maybe up to three years to see. I guess that wasn't true. I thought his arms would keep growing and his balance would improve over a period of time.







    Sarcasm
  8. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    You mean the same staff that thought Costa was ready to start in 2011?
  9. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    You guys are mistaking physical limitations for skill. He's got short arms, and it forces him to play technically solid football to avoid getting beat, but he's capable of doing that. It's already been pointed out that he addressed the problem he had getting into his set quickly at the end of 2011, and that it was responsible for his improvement late that year and in his limited action last season.

    And, personally, I think Costa's a better fit at OC than he would be at one of the OG positions. I like him making the line calls, and I prefer him assisting in pass protection or freed up to get to the LBs on running downs. I like him in blitz pickup, too, better than the other options we've got on the teams. I don't think putting up full-time on a DT bodes well for him given his limited reach, and it eliminates his strengths in diagnosing the defense quickly.
  10. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    no you are mistaking the inability to move quick enough and get set for something else.

    As Sdogo, couchscout and others have pointed out
  11. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    You've misremembered couchscout's posts.

    Pretty clearly he's saying back in 2011 that the issue is technique.

    And from his week 1 Giants game post last season:

    Clearly, he sees issues with Costa's pass protection, but it's also pretty clear, as I said that the issues are technique related and not, as you're mistakenly saying, the player's physical limitations.

    That's just according to couchscout, of course, since you cited him yourself. I agree with him, though, that PC's much better in the running game and weaker in pass protection. This is most of what the team's saying when they say bigger and better OG play can cover up some of the issues he's got.
  12. Mansta54

    Mansta54 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that exact staff.

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