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Bring Back Hudson Houck...

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by ratpower, Aug 18, 2005.

  1. ratpower

    ratpower New Member

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    Players win championships but did anyone notice that the O-Line got shakier as Hudson Houck has been gone...the guy was turning the John Gesaks of the world into players...

    Desperate measures, desperate times...
  2. JDSmith

    JDSmith New Member

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    Actually the line sucked for the last few years he was here as well. Everyone conveniently forgets exactly how bad we'd become prior to bringing in Coslett's guy to coach the line. Third and 1 was almost an automatic punt for 3 years before that. You had it right the first time, players win championships - Houck wasn't turning our putrid line good before he left.
  3. ratpower

    ratpower New Member

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    Good take but I think third and one also had to do with E's last few years where he couldn't hit the hole like he used to. The back ups were getting bigger runs then Smith his last few years...the holes were getting smaller but were still there. Coslet's years on, things have gotten a lot worse...
  4. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Notice the Speacial Teams also took a loss when Coach Joe got the boot.
  5. Cowboy from New York

    Cowboy from New York Active Member

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    Houck gets good results wherever he goes. If I'm not mistaken, last year wasn't he the O-line coach of the Chargers? Big part of that team's turnaround. I thought I read he left there, anyone know where he is now?
  6. JDSmith

    JDSmith New Member

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    Yes Houck gets results, but he had stopped getting results here years before he left. I don't care what he's done in SD, I care about the state of our line when he left - and it wasn't very good. Our line was pretty bad before the Coslett debacle, and I don't just mean in short yardage. Our pass protection and blitz pickups were nothing special either. We fielded a below average line for at least the last 3 years Houck was here.
  7. Cowboy from New York

    Cowboy from New York Active Member

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    Sure JD but remember the salary cap problems, fiasco after fiasco at QB, age and no depth at RB, Campo as coach and horrific drafting that was going on at the same time. I know new coaches need to emerge on every team but I'd take Houck over the unknown we have know.
  8. JBell523

    JBell523 That's my Quarterback

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    Isn't Houck with Miami now? and he was with SD last season?

    I believe he took a lot of money to go coach Miami's OL...

    yea it'd be nice to bring him back, but he's not available.
  9. dozin_theknick

    dozin_theknick New Member

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    That might be one one of the dumbest (so called) observations I have ever heard! Learn the correct spelling of a former Dallas Cowboy player before you use them as a reference, I think they deserve at least that much respect!
  10. JakeCamp12

    JakeCamp12 Well-Known Member

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    Houck didn't draft guys like Clay Shiver, so I would say he was handicapped with lousy draft picks and old veterans....lets give Sparano a chance and see how he does this year.
  11. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

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    we could have got Houck back because he did leave SD for Miami

    however it was Tony Wise who developed our OL initially...he was OL coach in after the 92 super bowl, when he left with Wannstedt for Chicago

    David
  12. NovaCowboy

    NovaCowboy Benched

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    Lets face it... we havent made offensive line an offseason priority in years. When was the last time we drafted an O-Lineman in the 1st round? Have we ever?

    We've missed terribly on free agent signings. Im even questioning the Rivera signing now that its known he had a back injury.

    I think it comes down to a lack of talent and chronic underachievers like Gurode and Flozell and to an extent LA the last couple of seasons.
  13. noshame

    noshame Who wouldn't follow me? Zone Supporter

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    Houck, Alvazzano(sp), ect. all got lazy working under head Coach Jerry Jones. Discipline starts at the top and we did not have any from 94-02. Houck was, and still is, one of the top five in his profession.
  14. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    The special teams started going south when Joe was still the coach. The return teams haven't produced the big returns the last two years, but the coverage teams have been great. The last two years under Avezanno, the coverage teams gave up a lot of big returns. I got tired of seeing that lost look on his face when the special teams gave up a big play.
  15. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    The return teams started going South when JA started sharing duties as HC of the Desperados and ST Coach of the Cowboys.

    As for Houch, I agree. He had little talent in the OL twords the end and an extremely slow backfield to work with.

    Give the guy talent and he produces. What more can you ask for from a position coach?
  16. jcblanco22

    jcblanco22 Active Member

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    Houck is already getting rave reviews from players and fans alike here in South Florida. I saw him up close and personal at Dolphins camp, and there was a lot of instruction going on. He's got the Dolphins first round pick from last year, Vernon Carey, holding his own at LT against the likes of Jason Taylor. Under the Wanny regime, Carey couldn't even sniff the game-day active list last year.

    Ironically enough, just as it happened here in Dallas, Houck is taking over for Tony Wise again. The big difference however, is that Wise seems to have lost something, if that's possible for a coach, the last few seasons. More than one Dolphins o-lineman has commented this summer on how much more hands-on Houck is as compared to Wise.
  17. jcblanco22

    jcblanco22 Active Member

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    I believe I heard it mentioned in last week's Dolphins telecast that Houck was going to be pulling in about $750k a year under Saban.
  18. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Offensive line coaches are like wives.

    When you have a good one, cherish them. If they are bad, one is as good as the other.
  19. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Zimmer's pulling in a cool million. Go figure.

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