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British Editorial on Obama

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by DFWJC, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Hope this is not a repeat.

    Have to admit, this guy gets to the point in very few words. Regardless of political preferences, you have to appreciate that. lol

    Subject:British editorial on Obama

    Tuesday, March 10, 2009

    British Editorial on Obama's Victory

    Ahh, the British have such a wonderful command of the English language. I do hope so, they invented it you know? I don't know how many pages it would take one of our best Yank writers to say so much, in so few words. Jolly good work here Mate. Enjoy!

    Whether you agree with this article or not, you have to agree that it is very cleverly written. –

    The Daily Mail ( UK ) wrote this editorial about Obama on 1/6/2009..
    (confirmation, Google " London Daily Mail Obama's Victory")

    Obama's Victory--A British view

    A victory for the hysterical Oprah Winfrey, the mad racist preacher Jeremiah Wright, the US mainstream media who abandoned any sense of objectivity long ago, Europeans who despise America largely because they depend on her, comics who claim to be dangerous and fearless but would not dare attack genuinely powerful special interest groups. A victory for Obama-worshippers everywhere. A victory for the cult of the cult. A man who has done little with his life but has written about his achievements as if he had found the cure for cancer in between winning a marathon and building a nuclear reactor with his teeth. Victory for style over substance, hyperbole over history, rabble-raising over reality.

    A victory for Hollywood , the most dysfunctional community in the world. Victory for Streisand, Spielberg, Soros, Moore, and Sarandon. Victory for those who prefer welfare to will and interference to independence. For those who settle for group think and herd mentality rather than those who fight for individual initiative and the right to be out of step with meager political fashion.

    Victory for a man who is no friend of freedom. He and his people have already stated that media has to be controlled so as to be balanced, without realizing the extraordinary irony within that statement. Like most liberal zealots, the Obama worshippers constantly speak of the Fox News Network and Rush Limbaugh, when the vast bulk of television stations and newspapers are drastically liberal and anti-conservative. Senior Democrat Chuck Schumer said that just as pornography should be censored, so should talk radio. In other words, one of the few free and open means of popular expression may well be cornered and beaten by bullies who even in triumph cannot tolerate any criticism and opposition.

    A victory for those who believe the state is better qualified to raise children than the family, for those who prefer teachers' unions to teaching and for those who are naively convinced that if the West is sufficiently weak towards its enemies, war and terror will dissolve as quickly as the tears on the face of a leftist celebrity.

    A victory for social democracy even after most of Europe has come to the painful conclusion that social democracy leads to mediocrity, failure, unemployment, inflation, higher taxes and economic stagnation. A victory for intrusive lawyers, banal sentimentalists, social extremists and urban snobs.

    Congratulations America ! Your funeral will be sooner than you think!
  2. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Maybe this is old news.
  3. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    But funny none the less...
    Wait, no it's not; it rings true.:eek:
  4. Jordan55

    Jordan55 Active Member

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    Loved it! The question is how deep will this administration bury us.
  5. MetalHead

    MetalHead Benched

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    But,but they love us now that Bush is gone...
  6. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Guess you don't about the Daily Mail... why am I not surprised??

    Well, let me fill in the blanks for you, Artie, in the hopes that sometime in the future, if the subject comes up again, you'll actually know what you're talking about:

    The Daily Mail is a tabloid, i.e., not particularly reputable... its political positions are as follows:

    Anti abortion...

    Anti immigration...

    Lower taxes...

    Tough on crime...

    Pro free markets, thus anti regulation...

    "Traditional values", i.e., social conservatism...

    Gee, that sounds a lot like John McCain and the American conservative movement, doesn't it?? So it would only be a surprise if they WEREN'T virulently anti-Obama...
  7. the fake norm hitzges

    the fake norm hitzges New Member

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    Only a liberal could call those basic points tabloid.
    Anyone with a basic knowledge of constitutionalism would champion those points.

    you lost any shred of credibility when you compared John McLame to the conservative movement.
  8. daschoo

    daschoo Slanje Va

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    he didn't say those points were tabloid. he said those were the ideals of the daily mail and that the daily mail was a tabloid.
  9. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Wow, you assumed that I call them a tabloid just because of those political issues?? How stupid is THAT??

    They're a tabloid because they're pretty much the National Enquirer of the UK...

    And why, oh why, do I doubt your "basic knowledge of constitutionalism"?? Could it be because you just tried to tell me that Michelle Bachmann is intelligent??

    I'll bet you couldn't even give a definition of conservatism or liberalism that a professor of Political Sciences would recognize... LOL...

    I just love it, the way you conservatives have turned on a guy who a year ago was one of your heroes...
  10. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    As compared to the "objectivity" found in that quote??

    Nice "objectivity"... LOL...

    Gee, is it even more "dysfunctional" than IRAQ??

    This, normie, is what they call tabloid hyperbole...

    And don't they sound HAPPY about it?? LOL...

    For the fake norm hitzges, a few examples of the tabloid nature of this newspaper's "journalism"...
  11. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Conservatives like normie lack the intellectual acuity to make such distinctions...

    Note that I said conservatives like normie, not ALL conservatives... I find myself hoping that he's not one of your more intelligent conservatives, and strongly suspect that's the case...

    The phrase "wingnut" springs to mind, for some reason... :D
  12. Jarv

    Jarv Loud pipes saves lives.

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    Ok I get it, so its like MSNBC then.
  13. Jordan55

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    How quick the Dems forget about their boy Al Bore and how they suported him after the election. Hey McCain was the only slim chance we had, since a majority of us thought a moderate gave us our best chance to win for the fall. It's pretty clear Obama bamboozled most of the nation by running as if he would govern towards the middle, but we all know now it was sham.
    The only good situation to come out of this election is to open the eyes of true conservatives republicans and get back to the principles of which the party was founded.
    I think you would agree that McCain, is not a true conservative hence RINO's are no longer acceptable in the Republican party.
    I believe that once the truth of where this new administration is leading this country becomes undisputable. The folks will wise up and choose the conservative alternative giving us our best chance in 2012, will the grass root base continue to grow, I'm betting on it. Now to find a leader for the party. :bow:
  14. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Don't know what you're talkin' about here, I still like and support him...

    "We all" know that, do we??

    Strange how his approval ratings are at 68 per cent, when "we all" know that...

    Perhaps in the interest in honesty, you should rephrase that to "all the right wing zealots on this message board, and a small minority of the rest of Americans" know that...

    Good for you, you'll have the "pure" party of your dreams...

    Of course, it will never win any national elections, because there aren't enough of you "true" conservatives around to make that happen...

    You have to win the moderates to win elections... Reagan only won because he won the moderates... Dubya got the moderate vote by playing on their post-9/11 hysteria...

    How many moderates do you reckon you'll win if you run every moderate out of your party?? Moderates everywhere are taking note of what happened to Specter, and if you run out Snowe too, they'll know that you reject them...
  15. MetalHead

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    What is wrong with those?
    You get funnier by the minute.
  16. Jordan55

    Jordan55 Active Member

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    Same situation happened to Al Gore after his failed election campaign only it was the Democratic party, that wanted nothing to do with him

    I would ask you in all honesty beides putting all of us further into debt as a nation what has he accomplished or achieved, that would deserve such an approval rating could it be that the national media is just one big propaganda informercial for his presidency, did you happen to watch his news conference last night and hear the questions asked.

    Only time will tell, and with the way this administration is spending tax payer dollars it will be hopefully sooner then later that people come to there senses

    I would have agreed with you with the last election, I supported that view that we needed a moderate candidate to attract more voters, didn't get us to far . I believe, the Republican party as a whole lost site of it's principles and Bush was major culprit, Hysteria? I believe this current administration has always been complacent as to seriousness of the threat, I only hope that innocent Americans don't pay the Reaper for it. But again only time will tell

    Please Spector was a disgrace to the party and in the end a strong conservative was going to trump him in the next election, so in true Spector style he's looking out for his own -----. this happening in the moderate state of Pennsylvania. As for Snowe and Collins, might as well hand over there seats to the Dems, why have someone in your party that touts the oppositions rhetoric. Would you not consider McCain a moderate, and where did it get us? I tend to believe moderates lean a little more to the right then the left as a whole, but then again only time will tell.
    Life is like a box of Chocolate you never know what your going to get. I enjoyed the draft info Bear, catch you later.
  17. Jordan55

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    Once again, NOT ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN in the US House of Representatives voted for the latest record spending bill, the 3.4 trillion dollars budget for 2010, that passed today:

    Democrats lost 17 votes to the GOP.

    Likewise, NOT ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN voted for the this record and irresponsible spending bill in the US Senate.

    Despite a recession and soaring budget deficits, Democrats overwhelmingly endorsed Obama's request for hundreds of billions of dollars in new spending. The legislation will also allow democrats to use a powerful procedural tool known as reconciliation to advance the Obama's plan for socialized healthcare without fear of a Republican filibuster.

    Obama and the Dems have made their bed.
    They own it now:

    Still think the Moderates are going to support this lunacy, this administration is destroying the country, that most of us love.

  18. Jordan55

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    What happens in a president's first 100 days rarely characterizes the arc of the 1,361 that follow. Jimmy Carter had a very good first 100 days. Bill Clinton did not.

    Still, a president would rather start well than poorly -- and Mr. Obama has a job approval of 63%. That leaves him tied with Mr. Carter, one point ahead of George W. Bush, and behind only Ronald Reagan's 67%. Four of the past six presidents had approval ratings that ranged between 62% and 67%, a statistically insignificant spread.

    The first 100 days can reveal a pattern of behavior that comes to characterize a presidency. In this respect, there are two emerging habits of Team Obama worth watching.

    One is the gap between what Mr. Obama said he would do and what he is doing. His administration is emphasizing in its official 100 days talking points steps he has taken to "deliver on the change he promised." During the campaign, Mr. Obama denounced the $2.3 trillion added to the national debt on Mr. Bush's watch as "deficits as far as the eye can see." But Mr. Obama's budget adds $9.3 trillion to the debt over the next 10 years. What happened to Obama the deficit hawk?

    Another emphasis in the Obama 100 days talking points is that the president is a decisive leader. However, Mr. Obama is enormously deferential to Democrats in Congress and has outsourced formulation of key policies to them. He appears largely ambivalent about the contents of important legislation, satisfied to simply sign someone else's bill.

    On the $787 billion stimulus package, he specified less than a quarter of the bill's spending and let House Appropriations Chairman Dave Obey decide the rest. On cap and trade, Mr. Obama is comfortable to let Democratic Reps. Henry Waxman and Edward Markey write that legislation with virtually no White House guidance. On health care, the White House is providing very little detail. Mr. Obama tees up an issue, but leaves its execution to congressional Democrats
    Mr. Obama is a great face for the Democratic Party. He is its best salesman and most persuasive advocate. But he is beginning to leave the impression that he is more concerned with the aesthetics of policy rather than its contents. In the long run, substance and consequences define a presidency more than signing ceremonies and photo-ops. In his first 100 days, Mr. Obama has put the fate of his presidency in the hands of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. He may come to regret that decision.
  19. Rackat

    Rackat Active Member

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    Even if he doesn't the rest of us will.
  20. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    The point is that their editorial agenda is nearly identical to the neocon agenda... which of course makes them hostile to Obama going in...

    Why am I unsurprised that you were unable to grasp such a simple, even obvious, point??

    And why do I doubt that you find me amusing?? Oh yeah, maybe it's because of the way you snarl at me... LOL...

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