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Broaddus FO thinks they are set at safety

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by RS12, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. You draft young players you have to give them the chance. If all we are going to do is draft a safety give him a season then draft another then it becomes a waste of time. I'm all in favor of drafting playmakers on defense regardless of the position even safety but I don't think safety is a must for this team at this stage.
  2. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    i like it MW, you are ahead of the curve

    and by the time the defense is "fixed" in 3 years, we will need a new QB

    and round and round we go
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  3. Rockytop6

    Rockytop6 Well-Known Member

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    I think we need a safety, if it is one of the top three, a lb, a dt, a de (probably 2) an ol, (g and t) and a wr and rb. Do we have the ammunition to do all of this in this draft? No. However I think some of these needs can be met in the latter rounds. I am optimistic that rb, wr, and even a dt can be found in the later rounds. I really believe that when this draft is over, most of us will be encouraged at the way the draft improved our team. I don't mean stars at every position but good, solid players at the positions when stars were not available.
    Anyway, we will see!
  4. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    I don't really care what Broaddus has to say so Im not overreacting to this......but this franchise has ignored the S position for far too long. Safety has become an increasingly important position in the modern nfl with the spread offense and TE's being pass catching freaks. Yet our front office hasnt adjusted to this. It's become a premium position yet we keep throwing small school projects at it hoping 1 will stick.
  5. theSHOW

    theSHOW Benched

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    I agree that Dallas will look to bolster the trenches and give the current safety group an entire season to show us their games. Frankly I look forward to seeing these guys play. Add in a linebacker WR and corner and maybe a back. QB waits unless Orton leaves then we will taka flyer.
  6. chicago JK

    chicago JK Well-Known Member

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    They are definitely not set at safety. If a player is not drafted high, they need to bring in a veteran after the draft who can compete for a starting job. You can't enter camp hoping Wilcox continues to develop, Chuch continues to improve and Health/Johnson prove to be NFL players as your only options to get an average starting lineup.

    Although, that kind of hope more often than not is how the front office tends to view their roster.
  7. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    I understand what you are saying... But that's life in the NFL.

    22 starting positions... Plus what? Another dozen key back-up spots.

    You get on average 7 draft picks a year and the average career is what? 4 years.

    The math doesn't work even if you hit on all 7 picks, which no team does..

    Then you have roster size limitations and the salary cap.

    It's "dog chasing its tail" scenario.
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  8. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    how do other teams do it?
    same cap, same picks

    i know, full time GM and real HC
  9. guag

    guag Right Kind of Guy

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    Exactly, and this is what makes the draft especially important.
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  10. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    I'm not impressed by a safety who plays the run well, but whose ball-hawking skills are questionable. We've often had the former, but haven't touched a guy that could cover well and be a guy that could get players in the right position. We've been exposed all too many times in the deep zones and in the middle, between the LBs and safeties.

    And the reason we sucked at pass defense last year just wasn't because of 'pressure', it was because we were flat-out in bad positions all over the field when it came to coverage. We switchd from zone back to man because our DBs were confused. Our intelligence in the secondary for years has been questionable.
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  11. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Certainly the lousy drafting from '06 until '09 created a big void.

    There were a whole lotta draft picks that didn't help this club... There were a few that did for a bit, but overall that "black hole" created a lot of problems for this club.
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  12. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    I wouldn't put an ounce of stock into what Broaddus says this long before the draft. I suspect we address S in some way, even if not at the top of the draft.
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  13. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Not really. But thanks for playing.
  14. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing Zone Supporter

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    Church and Heath/Wilcox were consistently late providing help to the corners or being ready for the corner to pass off an assignemtnt, etc . It was one of the biggest flaws of this system's implementation last season (slow/inexperienced Safeties make it useless).
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  15. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Yep... Carr was blasted for Megatron going buck-wild, yet they were playing zone and the reason for many of the big plays was precisely because of the point you raised. I saw multiple times Carr leaving his man for the zone in the Detroit game and nobody was to be seen, whoever our safety help was.
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  16. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing Zone Supporter

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    Agree on that observation. It seemed Carr tuned out after this game. The Safety play was going to leave him out to dry regarless of how well he got his jam, redirected the receiver, etc. I think the confidence lost was due to the inadequate JV level Safety play, not regarding his own coverage skills. Church is simply too slow for the modern game. He can't keep up with TEs, scat backs, god forbid a slot receiver at times, etc. Wilcox has the speed and the thump to his hits so he has the right attitude. That is the only S I would "give time" to figure it out. We have to let scrubs find their own way on this team?
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  17. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    It's amazing we still haven't learned our lesson with Roy Williams and going for these hard-hitting safeties that aren't suited to the modern game. I remember they use to talk about Roy moving closer to the line to allow him to flourish, but it didn't help. Teams are using lots of deception even up-front with picks and formations. We need cerebral players. People talk about Seattle pressure, but they rush four a lot and their DBs are smart. They are in position because they know what is going on. They blanketed everything Peyton did in the SB, because they knew what was coming.
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  18. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing Zone Supporter

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    Will Allen was brought in for the vet minimum and had like 1 career interception or something terrible. They knew what they were "paying for"...
  19. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    Quality post.

    Thanks pal.
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  20. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing Zone Supporter

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    Very true, if anything, modern Safeties are just big corners with slightly better tackling ability. Smart players can compensate for not having top notch athleticism and would love a Woody type who posseses both (not likely). Modern Safeties are much more integral to defending the pass than fans give them credit for. Esp considering we play a zone scheme, the value transfers from CBs to Safeties. Yet we don't value the position even a little? Just Odd to say the least.
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