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News: BTB: The Dallas Cowboys 2011-2017 Salary Cap Health Manifesto Part I: You've Been Lied To

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  1. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I agree they know the tricks to create cap room, but the way they go about it does not suggest they know what they are doing. It violates the principles of the cap and is somewhat clever in a way. But it is destructive force that can ruin a team if it is recklessly adopted, which it is. It basically puts two strikes on you every offseason.
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  2. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    It's a bottom-up erosion. Likely explains why the team has no depth on defense. Don't even have starters at some spots.

    You increase prorated portion of the cap and you decrease what's left for base salaries.

    Base salaries are where you get depth cause they're most often guys not worthy of large paycheck to prorate.

    Instead of quality depth you have bottom tier vets and rookies on minimums.

    Part of the reason they keep going after these projects and wishing well players is that they desperately need to hit on one to get the better play they cannot afford.
  3. Common Sense

    Common Sense Well-Known Member

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    Part of proper cap management is knowing, say, that the "going rate" for a free agent starting CB in 2012 is grossly inflated and those resources should be spent elsewhere.
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  4. morasp

    morasp Well-Known Member

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    anyone could field a 53 man roster and be under the cap.
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  5. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    The going rate? What did the Rams pay as the going rate for Cortland Finnegan PRIOR to Dallas signing Carr? Um huh, . . . . . . . and Dallas paid how much for Carr? Answer: $100,000 more than the Rams paid for Finnegan.
  6. Common Sense

    Common Sense Well-Known Member

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    Correct.
  7. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    Hope it turns out as good as last year!
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  8. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    Well, as Jerry always prefaces, "In my mind." :D I don't agree with it of course but he does have some weird, warped, maniacal way of doing things. I also agree that his way appears to be "destructive" and "reckless" but that is, or it appears to be, his very nature.
  9. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Forgot one:

    Article will cause a whole lotta butthurt for those not willing to allow for the fact that Jerry maybe can do a thing or two right even tho the results are the same - [IMG]
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  10. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    Glad you included that 'even tho the results are the same' disclaimer.

    Thumbs up!
  11. Bigdog24

    Bigdog24 Well-Known Member

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    Prior to the Salary Cap...3 Superbowl Championships............After the Salary Cap was instituted...1 Playoff win in what 17 to 18 years.....uuuuhm. I geuss they know what they are doing.... but Al Davis thought the same thing to.
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  12. Bullflop

    Bullflop Well-Known Member

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    This article does quite a spin job on the supposed genius that is Jerry and Stephen. Ultimately it's nothing other than spin. Proliferating a condition of constantly being challenged to stay within the cap while not being able to afford sufficient help from the free agent pro ranks is simply damaging. Proper management entails more than simply that, though. Knowledge of evaluating talent is crucial to every general manager. Staying out of cap hell is just as crucial. We suck at both.
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  13. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    and the article ignores the fact that the cap both this year and last year were only set at the last moment. Because no one knew until then what all the expenses would be that come off the top. And that will continue for the forseeable future. Yes it will go up but NO ONE knows how much how fast. Try and make a long term expensive contract without knowing how much money you will have three years from now.
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  14. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    In short, yes, it puts too much pressure on the drafting process that is inexact science to begin with. It also could prompt swinging for the fences in the hopes of getting payoff.
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  15. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Great article. Jones taken a ton a heat for salary cap mismanagement but he always finds a way to be in compliance. One of the few things we do well.
  16. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    Where did you see that at? and the Cowboys aren't the only team over the cap every year.
  17. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    lotta people gonna have fun with that one.
  18. slomoxn

    slomoxn Well-Known Member

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    I could care less about their cap management, just because you have a million dollars doesn't mean you pay 300,000 for a Yugo when there is a Mercedes sitting next to it for less. That's my problem with them, not so much how they spend it but what they are spending it on; so yes they still suck at cap management even if they have a plan. Marion Barber is probably still going to his mailbox each week and sending a letter to Jerry saying thank you. As a matter of fact a few playea or ex-players on this team are, and before anyone says all teams have that problem... I don't root for all teams so I don't care what their problems are. I'm a Cowboys fan!
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  19. skinsscalper

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    I'm pretty sure that the guy who helped write up the whole agreement has a pretty good idea how it's structured and when the money will hit the coffers. I don't agree with some of Jones' personnel decisions but the notion that he's flailing in the wind as far as the cap goes is wishful thinking by the people that look for every opportunity to bash the guy.
  20. Blackspider214

    Blackspider214 Well-Known Member

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    Yet we have to restructure every single season and have so little depth that one injury sends us into a tailspin.

    So yes, I am going to say they really do not know what they are doing.

    This team has no identity or no direction.
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