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Can We Talk Rams Now?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Staubacher, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. Staubacher

    Staubacher Well-Known Member

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    Scandy probably is our best cover corner. Mo is almost a liability right now. Carr makes big plays and is steady.
  2. mldardy

    mldardy Well-Known Member

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    Not sure how you came to this conclusion.
  3. ejthedj

    ejthedj Well-Known Member

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    I know I wrote a post about how this looks like a different team, and I really think so especially in the way we have been mostly disciplined and prepared and played hard.

    BUT, this is my big fear. The one thing that hasn't looked different is the run game, which hurts the passing game, the play calling, and the red zone.

    IF, it's true that this is a playcalling-system (i.e. coaching) problem, then we are just screwed.


    Still, I think we have smart coaches and this is a copycat league. They watch other teams and see what they do. They know the full range of plays available. Surely they aren't (both Garrett and Cal) just clueless about when to call what.

    People make mistakes. The Dez red zone play was a huge one. If he catches that touchdown, this game is probably ours and maybe not close. The screen pass was a ridiculous call. All on Callahan (or maybe Romo audible?). If he doesn't make that mistake, are we all up in arms over the play calling?

    I say we have a little more patience with the offense at this point.
  4. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Bradford has played well so far this season. He put up 352 yards and 3 TD's on the road in Atlanta last week. They have a very dangerous playmaker in Tavon Austin who put up 2 TD's vs Atlanta. The Rams gave the Falcons all they could handle last week the Cowboys better be focused and ready to play on Sunday or we could be looking at a long day. The Rams have clearly improved while the Cowboys look like the same mediocre team we've been seeing.
  5. cowboysooner

    cowboysooner Well-Known Member

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    Cortland Finnegan got old overnight/banged up like Newman for us a few years ago. Jenkins takes a ton of chances on the other side. Their safeties are worse than ours. They are a top 3 unit on the dline. They have 3 dominant players and 3 more good rotation guys behind them. Ogletree is similar to Carter and Laurenitas is a very good player. Their 3 rd corner is a better player than the third backer. I'd like to see some 7 and 8 man protection and take some down field shots. We should run at Quinn some.
  6. NickZepp

    NickZepp Well-Known Member

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    We need to run the ball well this game because their pass rush will be tough on Romo if we are forced to just pass it all day.
  7. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    If Bradford has a big day like he had last week vs Atlanta Romo will have 50+ attempts on Sunday especially if Murray keeps running into piles. The Rams put up 24 points vs Atlanta and Matt Ryan had to attempt 43 passes and produce 374 yards and 2 TD's to win that game so the Cowboys are going to have to attack the Rams if they want to win. Alex Smith was more productive vs the Cowboys than he was vs JAX on opening day. I may be more concerned about the Cowboys defense than their offense. Last week we saw players out of position again which led to another TD pass. Lee was out of position on Smith's TD throw to Bowe. With Bradford improving and having a threat like Tavon Austin this is going to be another tough game for the Cowboys.
  8. fanfromvirginia

    fanfromvirginia Inconceivable!

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    Most teams in the NFL in the age of parity are split personality -- you never know what you're going to get from week to week. A handful of teams are either consistently and therefore predictably very good or very bad. The Cowboys have been predictably unpredictable for well more than a decade now but I don't think it's necessarily unique to us. I would definitely put the Rams in this category this season, at least for now. Since this is such a young season I think this is an incredibly difficult game to predict.
  9. CT Dal Fan

    CT Dal Fan Well-Known Member

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    Mo is a liability right now. Not to start a major debate, but in the 2011 draft, could the Cowboys have gotten Dontari Poe instead of Claiborne? They could have made it with Carr and Scandrick starting; and Poe would look pretty darn good on a line with Ware, Hatcher, and Spencer.
  10. cowboys1981

    cowboys1981 Well-Known Member

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    Like I said last week, TO's will be the key to this game. We can't underestimate these guys one bit and a win is huge! It will put us at 2-0 vs the NFC.
  11. nake

    nake Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Yeah, it's a good time to talk Rams. However, I just found out - OK, maybe I'm the last to know - that the Chiefs are playing the Eagles Thursday night, so I'm now a Chiefs fan for a few days. Go Chiefs!
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  12. Staubacher

    Staubacher Well-Known Member

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    Yeah we are Chiefs fans now! I think it's a tough one for them after a tough emotional win and a short week and road game. Eagles stay home from the weekend and are pissed and motivated
  13. cnhnyy

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    I think it is going to be a close game and we end up losing by less than 7 points (sound familiar?) We can not stop a team when we need it and we can not sustain a drive when we have to.
  14. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    It would be interesting (and awesome) if the Chiefs win. A lot of people were crying in their beers after Seattle last year, but it didn't look so bad when it was all said and done with Seattle going 8-0 at home and that game being our hardest of the year. Maybe this Chiefs loss won't look so bad in the end either.
  15. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    The opening line at Cowboys -4 told me all I need to know about this game.

    Coming from gambling(past) experience, this throws up immediate flags. I still cap games for friends to bet on and they usually win more often than not. When I cap and bet on it myself, it usually results in a loss, reason why I stopped....that and a baby girl. But I still like to throw them bones on occasion and here is what I see:

    (as a sidenote, I never, ever bet on or against my team, didn't want the bad vibes and rarely cap Cowboy games)

    That opening line screams - bet on Dallas. The public sees Dallas as a bad to mediocre team, no way they should be favored, even at home. They will say we are overrated and only a favorite because it is Dallas against another average team. But, here is the problem, it should be Dallas -2, -3 at absolute worst. I used my knowledge of this team(tendencies and trends) and various gambling websites to come to my conclusion.

    The way the line moves this week will either confirm or confuse me. If it moves (maybe to Dallas -5/6), then if you do bet, bet on Dallas...big, that would be a 4* play and could be a steam move, depending on when that happens. If the line moves either way shortly before kickoff, that will be the public, ignore it.

    If the line goes down to Dallas -2(during the week), Dallas should still cover, but then it is a 2* play, means don't bet as much/not as strong of a play. This is not a trap game, it is an opportunity to make some money against the obvious(public) choice.


    I am going to ignore my distaste for the offense for this week and predict Dallas wins, rather handily I might add. We could be looking at a 10-17 point margin here. This should be the week the offense scores some points and looks somewhat normal. Nothing better than some media ire directed towards the team, especially the coaches. They will be ready this Sunday. I think at worse, there could be a backdoor cover but at least the Cowboys would still win in that scenario.

    Long story short....Dallas wins and will never be in danger of losing this game :D

    P.S. They don't call this gambling for nothing, it is educated guesses.
  16. Hook'em#11

    Hook'em#11 Well-Known Member

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    Whatever gets you through the night sparky. I am not hyping up the Rams one bit. I am just not as faithful in this Dallas team as you are.
  17. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    This is the best defensive line we'll face all year. It's a good thing we get them at home and won't have to contend with crowd noise.

    Robert Quinn is playing at a very high level so far this year. He may actually be considered the best pass rusher after this year if he keeps up this pace.

    But luckily it's only week 3 and they're not really gelling yet as a defense. Although they have a fierce pass rush, they have their press corners playing off the LOS and which is somewhat neutralizing the push they're getting up front.

    Tavon Austin scares me. He's basically like another DeSean Jackson, but probably a bit faster and shiftier.
  18. Nation

    Nation Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    For the year he's been targeted 10 times which has led to 7 completions, 149 yards, and a 112.5 passer rating on throws against him. He's in the bottom ten for corners in yards against, Avg per completion, Yards after Catch allowed, and has 0 passes defended. It's a fair conclusion.
  19. Staubacher

    Staubacher Well-Known Member

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    That's bad. I haven't seen anything special about him this year or last that's for sure. Still time though and if his injuries clear up that should help
  20. mldardy

    mldardy Well-Known Member

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    Well ok he's had some passes completed against I'm still not ready to say he can't cover anybody. We'll see as the season goes along. If it continues then that is really bad but I have confidence that Mo will get better. He also missed the entire preseason and battling an injury so maybe it's taking him a little longer to get adjusted. Hopefully it's soon.

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