Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by MichaelWinicki, Jul 25, 2014.
Yes I'm interested.
Pass. For the Buc's to do this indicates some big-time problem.
he'll probably be retiring....never recovered from turf toe + MRSA
Once again it proves paying the premium for top free agents isn't worth it.
And there were lots of folks here who wanted the Cowboys to waste the money sign the guy.
And 5 years/ $47.5M seemed so reasonable at the time.
Dem experts doe.
A lot of folks around here were crying in their beer when we didn't sign him.
Hard to tell how well he would have played if he hadn't contracted MRSA. Bucs had a problem in their facilities the Cowboys seem to have avoided.
Lovie Smith has never been big on offense or the offensive line.
so you knew he was going to get MRSA?
Knew you don't pay OGs $10M AAV in free agency, anyway.
Looks like the Mack/Livings route wasn't such a disaster, after all. Amirite?
I'd pay a G 10 million way before I'd pay that to an irrelevant CB.
Allow him to cherry pick what he can. He could write a book on what he's been wrong on.
In fairness though, it's not really him being wrong. It's the team being wrong and his inability to think for himself.
I know. You also said you'd draft one #1 overall. Tee-hee.
And somehow you feel like you made a point.
Take a guy like Travis Frederick. Not a G but still an interior OL. He made twice the impact on the team than Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne ever will. This isn't opinion. It was right there for everyone to see.
But your genius would pay the completely irrelevant cornerback. Time and time again. Despite obvious failure.
It's not about making an impact, it's about who you pass up by taking an interior OL that early. Some positions are harder and more expensive to fill. If you can get a the #1 DE or QB in the first and 8th best OL in the second, the OL will probably be a lot closer to the #1 OL taken vs the 6-8th QB/DE taken.
Getting a 10 year starter in the 1st is usually not a bad thing, but if pass up the next JJ Watt or Andrew Luck, that is taking it too far.
Of course I made a point. You'd never actually admit being wrong, but that's another matter.
I'm going to completely ignore your Frederick deflection since OC is a different position from OG.
But I'll reiterate again that if you want to see how CBs are valued in this league relative to OGs, all you need to do is look at Sportrac. They get paid a lot more, on average--significantly so. And the highest paid CBs make more than the highest paid OGs. That's league-wide consensus of GMs. I don't care that you disagree, because you're simply wrong.
I'm not even getting into the fact that you want to pay CB money on a player you can get for millions cheaper. Or ask you to defend the ludicrous idea of taking an OG #1 overall. I'll just wait for you to admit that Mack was a better signing by the Cowboys than Nicks turned out to be for the Bucs. Both in terms of value relative to the cap and production on the field.
I'll wait. But forgive me if I'm not holding my breath. All I'm going to get is more deflection.
Carl Nicks, Buccaneers part ways
Posted by Mike Florio on July 25, 2014, 5:01 PM EDT
Two years ago, the Buccaneers pilfered free-agent guard Carl Nicks from the Saints with a five-year, $47.5 million contract. Now, Nicks is a free agent again.
Jay Glazer of FOX reports that the Bucs and Nicks have struck a deal to end his time in Tampa. Glazer calls the situation an “amicable settlement,” which implies that something other than an outright release happened.
It’s possible Nicks has given back some of the $25 million he has received for appearing in only nine games. It’s possible that the Bucs gave him a little more money to resolve any potential claims arising from the staph infection he contracted last year...
Is this of interest now, to the Cowboys?