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Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Fletch, Oct 29, 2004.

  1. BUSDRIV3RDH

    BUSDRIV3RDH New Member

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    15th? Try more like 5-8th.

    I wouldn't mind Derrick Johnson with our 2nd pick. I am very convinced we'll be in the position to do this too. No way our pick is #15, just no way.

    If we pass on Williams I believe we'll live to regret it like the Moss/Ellis draft.

    1a. Mike Williams {Even if it means us having to trade up a spot or two...no cost too high}
    1b. Derrick Johnson or Andre Rolle

    However if somehow one of 2 picks ends up being #1 overall, I would have to seriously consider taking a look at the top quarterbacks availble.
  2. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Yep.

    I hate it too.
  3. Fletch

    Fletch To The Moon

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    Very much agreed Hostile. Mike Williams will be an immediate impact for some lucky team. Just hope it is the Dallas Cowboys. :cool:
  4. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

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    Mike wasn't even gonna be a top 5 pick THIS YEAR. No way is he a top 5 pick NEXT year. I'm not saying he's not great. I preferred him over Roy (Still do). I'm only going by what I believe NFL teams will go by. He's out for a full year, isn't fast (NFL teams put way too much stock in speed), and he's supposedly had a tendency to gain weight.

    I'd love for us to draft Derrick Johnson and MWIll, I just think Mike is gonna drop big time.
  5. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

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    QBs are rarely the actualy best "Player" in the draft. They get boosted up draft boards just cuz their QBs. Seriously, who is a better "Player", Eli Manning or Roy Williams?




    I thought, and still do think, Rivers is the best QB in this draft class. Worth a top 5 pick as a PLAYER? No. But, like I said above, QBs get boosted up draft boards just coz of the position they play.

    I still wish we had taken Leftwich two years ago.
  6. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    If he does and we get him with our 2nd pick I will love it. If he falls to the 2nd round and we get him I will love it more.

    Just get him.
  7. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    I still wish we had taken Suggs. Doesn't matter now. I hope you undestand why I say I take no one's word for it. It simply has to happen. No way was Jackson falling to 22. Someone forgot to tell the 23 teams that passed on him.
  8. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    You're sounding like SBK now!
  9. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    Wrong, I was the original Suggs fan. I was touting him long before he declared for the draft. I have wanted Dallas to take him ever since he played Arizona as a Freshmen. I hate ASU football but I saw him play live 7 times, only 3 were agaisnt the Wildcats since he declared as a Junior. That means I bought 4 Scum Devils tickets just to watch him play. I saw at least 20 other games that he played in. I even rode my cycle up to Tempe for his 2nd Pro Day workout. Far cry from reading the reports about him and procaliming man love.
  10. jterrell

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    I don't buy that.

    How many plays have our LBs made this entire season? Do we even bring back coackley or Singleton? Don't we want to run some 3-4 sets?

    If a RB is the highest rated player on the board why not choose him? I dont think we will but we should consider it. Julius Jones was a mid second round type not a stud. Willaims and DJ are excellent players and we need excellent players. Maybe Jones offers soem great hope in the last few eeks but if not we will have a shot at a top 10 overall type back. Soemthing that hasnt been on the board in 3 years.

    Many thought it stupid to draft a safety so high a couple of years back.

    And dont forget we didnt take Leftwich because we had young QBs????

    Avoid the nonsense and take the players you rate to be truly stellar.
  11. jterrell

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    Those were the 2 players I liked best at our spot and both fell. I wish we had traded down and taken one of them. TNew's age was a concern for me. All that said, last year he looked awesome. Its just this crappy season....
  12. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    Mike Williams will be the first WR taken in this coming draft....I've seen B. Edwards of Michigan on TV a few times this year, and he's a good one, but he's not in Mike Williams' category.

    Williams will go high despite not playing this year for one simple reason...there's never been a WR like him in college or the NFL. Name the last WR with his height, weight, running ability YAC, velcro hands, athletic ability to twist and adjust his body, blocking, and blocking ability...heck, he's like having another H-back out there.

    And while he doesn't put up the exceptional or even above average 40 time, due to his long stride, I've never seen his caught from behind by a DB when he is running away....surely some NFL DB's will run him down...they even ran Dorsett down a few times.

    Bottom line is that this kid is a FREAK at the WR position...we see what Keyshaun can do...this kid is bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic, and known for being an extremely hard worker....that's why he'll be the first WR off the board...you kind find great WR's in every draft, but this kid is one of a kind, and he owns all of the records at Keyshaun's USC in only 2 years of play with 2 different QB's.
  13. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    I agree. Suggs being only 20 to Newman's 25 was another huge reason why I would have taken the DE. My draft wishes were

    1. Suggs
    2. Leftwich
    3. Newman
  14. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    Great post, totally agree.
  15. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    LOL!

    :D
  16. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    With Glenn being lost for the season and given the age of both Key and Glenn, I'm starting to lean your way... I mean as far as Williams goes... not the other "lean your way". :D

    So don't get any ideas. ;)
  17. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    Then stop putting them in my head. :D
  18. Bizwah

    Bizwah Well-Known Member

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    I like the idea of adding Mike Williams now more than I did a couple of weeks ago.

    We had a trio of good receivers: Keyshawn, Glenn, and Bryant. All three are good WRs, but there really wasn't a burner among them. I thought adding another WR like Williams would just double up on our tough/possession type.

    But the addition of Morgan changes my views. He can come in any time and stretch the defense, opening up defenses for Williams and Key.

    Imagine third and goal from the six........We line up Keyshawn at one WR position, Mike Williams at the other, and Witten lines up at TE.

    How tough would it be for defenses to defend three receivers 6-4 and over?

    Especially the Philly CBs.....their starters are both 5-10.

    Also, if we decide to go with Henson at QB, he'll need all the help he can get. He'll have a good OL (this has improved a great deal this year) and a fine WR corps. This can only help. I believe the combo of a stout OL, a solid running game, and a good WR trio is what's making Ben Rothlisberger successful.
  19. SkinsandTerps

    SkinsandTerps Redskins Forever

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    And the threat of a running game. At this point the Cowboys dont have that. If Parcells would stop being so stubborn about Lee. That may be a different story.
  20. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    Dang, a Skins fan agrees with most of us about Lee. I guess it's not just the color of the glasses.

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