Clayton's Top 10 All-time QBs

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  1. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member

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    Don't shoot the messenger.

    Here is a list of John Clayton's all-time top 10 QBs:
    1. Unitas
    2. Montana
    3. Graham
    4. Elway
    5. Favre
    6. Marino
    7. Brady
    8. Manning
    9. Bradshaw
    10. Starr
    Not terrible, but I would have a different order and maybe a few different names.

    What's your list?

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Any list I'd put together would start with Staubach. I have seen most of these guys play and I would take Roger over any of them.
  3. MarionBarberThe4th

    MarionBarberThe4th Well-Known Member

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    Brady and Favre over Peyton Manning is dumb.
  4. HoosierCowboy

    HoosierCowboy Put Pearson in the HOF

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    hate it when they just look at passing yards because todays guys play with different rules and throw it 3 times as many times and there was once a lot more to being a QB than just throwing
  5. Scranton Tiger

    Scranton Tiger New Member

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    Otto Graham has to be at the top of any list like this one. Led his team to 10 Championship games in 10 seasons winning 7 Titles. If he isn't on top, the list has no credibility. JMO
  6. BeWare94

    BeWare94 Benched

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    Marino, Bradshaw and Starr but no Aikman? BS
  7. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I agree and would add Trakenton to the all time list
  8. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Augmented. Zone Supporter

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    Aikman > Elway
    Aikman > Brady
    Aikman > Manning
    Aikman > Starr
    Aikman > Favre
    Staubach > All
  9. burmafrd

    burmafrd Benched

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    Trying to compare different eras QBs is futile. No way you can compare Otto Grahams NFL to Peyton Mannings NFL. Graham, Unitas, Staubach, Montana, Elway & Aikman, Peyton Manning. Eachof those the best of their times. I would love to take AIkman over Elway as they played a lot of the same time but I cannot.
  10. jem88

    jem88 Active Member

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    I never watched Staubach but from what I've read and the highlights I've seen, I find it very hard to believe that Favre would be above him. Any old-timers care to enlighten?

    For what it's worth, I'd have Steve Young and Peyton Manning ahead of Favre as well.
  11. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Augmented. Zone Supporter

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    I would take Staubach over all from what i've seen.

    Aikman ranks 4th after Graham and Marino.
  12. dadymat

    dadymat I'm kind of a Big Deal

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    you take homerism to a whole different level.......:rolleyes:
  13. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg That gum you like.

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    I like Aikman, but you're smoking crack.
  14. Hostile

    Hostile The Duke

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    For me it is entirely about passing ability. I try and think what would happen if they were on the same team. Not what they did in their careers.

    1. Peyton Manning
    2. John Elway
    3. Roger Staubach
    4. Joe Montana
    5. Johnny Unitas
    6. Brett Favre
    7. Dan Marino
    8. Otto Graham
    9. Y. A. Tittle
    10. Troy Aikman
  15. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    1. Joe Montana - He was Mr. Clutch when I was growing up and as far as I'm concerned there is no one that I believe would be better in big game situations than him.

    2. Peyton Manning - The guy is just flat out brilliant. I'm not sure I've ever seen a QB who just awed me more with his flat out, God given, ability to throw the ball so perfectly.

    3. Roger Staubach - Captain Comeback. This is the only guy I even consider in the same breath as Joe Cool when it comes to big game, big play, come from behind situations. I know other guys might have done it more often than him but I'd take him over anyone not named Joe Montana in those situations.

    4. Otto Graham - There is certainly a case to be made that the guy should be #1 based of Championships and appearances alone but those, to me, are team accomplishments and not just on him. The guy also happened to have one of the best running backs playing at that time with him in Motley so it's not like he did it all on his own or anything. Though there isn't a player who ever does it all on his own anyway.

    5. John Elway - He was amazing long before they finally put enough pieces around him to actually win a couple Superbowls. Those just put the final validation on an absolutely amazing career.

    6. Johnny Unitas - The guy could flat play. What did he have something like 47 straight games with a TD pass? Think about that folks. He holds the record for most games with a TD pass even when todays NFL is more pass happy they don't come close to this guys record. Pretty dang impressive.

    7. Brett Favre - I could probably very easily make a case for him being even higher on the list but anywhere in the top 10 is an appropriate place for this guy. He's just flat been amazing.

    8. Tom Brady - He's done as much with as little, around him offensively that is, as any big time QB IMO. He's a great player. He throws the ball great, he's smart, and he has proven, numerous times, that he can be very clutch when they need him to be. I like Tom a whole lot. Great QB.

    9. Dan Marino - This guy could easily be higher on the list, I know that, cause of what he was able to do from the QB perspective. My only issue was that he just didn't seem as clutch in the bigger situations. He was very clutch in regular season games and stuff and you never felt it was over in the regular season with him. But when it came to post season I just never got the same feeling that he could lead comebacks the way other QBs could. Still an amazing QB without a doubt.

    10. Troy Aikman - Maybe it's a bit of a homer pick on my part. I do believe I can make the case that he's top 10 but there are about a half dozen other guys who I believe I could make strong cases for at this spot as well. Aikman was everything you wanted in a QB though. Big, strong arm, tough, great leader, could be very clutch when needed, extremely smart, and without any doubt, at all, the most accurate QB I've ever had the priveledge of watching play the game.

    Some guys who I think just missed the top 10, but you could easily make a case for (Or at least I could):

    Terry Bradshaw - The guy is often forgotten cause of all the great players he had around him but the guy could just flat get it done if they needed him too. I liked him. He was a winner.

    Bart Starr - I personally probably under-rate him given the era, the way the Packers played football, and all that but if you watch the guy play and you listen to the players who were able to play with him you know that he was the guy who drove that Packer Engine. He was the guy who got it done for them so I could see people putting him in the top 10.

    Fran Tarkenton - The guy was the heart and soul, IMO, of the Vikes during his time there. It's a shame the poor guy never got a ring with them cause he was an impressive player.

    Sammy Baugh - I am actually surprised that absolutely no one else even mentioned this guy, unless I just happened to over look it. This guy was an amazing player. He was certainly a darn good QB back then and just think of all he did when he played. I'm impressed the most by the fact that one year he led the league in TD passes and also led the league in INTs that same year.

    And for those who don't understand that I don't mean he threw the most INT's I mean he actually PICKED OFF the most passes in the league that year playing both ways. Thats so impressive to me. I could make a case for him in the top 10 for sure.
  16. joseephuss

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    Three of those championships were in the NFL. Before that Cleveland was in the AAFC, which was an inferior league. He definitely deserves consideration as one of the best QBs, but the 7 titles thing is a bit misleading since they were not all in the NFL. If all 7 had been in the NFL, then I would re-consider him being the absolute best.
  17. Cowboy Brian

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    the most unbiased post I will ever make:
    1. Roger Staubach
    2. Graham.
    3. Unitas
    4. Montana
    5. John Elway
    6. Marino
    7. Troy Aikman
    8. Peyton Manning
    9. Brett Favre
    10. Terry Bradshaw
  18. eightysiX

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    i would switch 7 and 8.
  19. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Augmented. Zone Supporter

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    Aikman and Manning are very similar QB's. Both are Ultra-Accurate with a dominate offensive line. Two differences, Manning calls some of his offenses plays, and has no running game the past few season. On the other side of the fence, Aikman has 3 championships so right now I put Aikman above Manning.
  20. eightysiX

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    although if your gonna base that on rings what about Elway and Marino?

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