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Coaching has Nothing to do with Seattle Abusing the Broncos

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by khiladi, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    http://elitedaily.com/sports/richar...ense-knew-peyton-mannings-hand-signals-calls/

    While it is abundantly clear that Seattle has talent, part of the reason they won, per Richard Sherman is precisely because they knew and understood what Peyton Manning was throwing at them. They understood the tendencies. He also mentioned the ability to adjust on Peyton's part with double-moves could have opened up their offense. If people don't understand how stopping one of the most prolific, if not most prolific offense ever, applies to Jason Garrett's offense and it's simplicity, then I don't know what to say.
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  2. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    So you think the players found out about Manning's tendency on certain plays by them selves, without their coaches getting involved? Please....
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  3. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    What's your argument, exactly? That coaching didn't have anything to do with the win, or that it did and that that same approach would let them stop the Cowboys? Or something else entirely?
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  4. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    No, I'm saying that play calling has everything to do with making an offense or defense look good. It's not simply about lining up people and having them beat their men one-on-one. I'm hearing a lot of Seattle just physically out-matched Denver. They swarmed to the ball in part because they knew where the ball was going.
  5. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Funny how when DB were calling out knowing the routes of Cowboys WRs in Garrett's offense for years, Garrett homers just kept and keep blowing it off.
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  6. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    All that is what coaches do...so what is your point?

    You said "coaching" had nothing to do with the Seahawks win.
  7. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    See above...
  8. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    So, you think the players only, without any coach input, knew what Garrett was going to do? DUDE!
  9. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Am I really saying that or am I saying Garrett's a joke of a coach and defenses easily figured him out which is why our best years under him were when we went up-tempo and Romo essentially free-wheeling...
  10. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    That is what you really started this thread for.

    Then you tried to mask it by saying that the Seattle coaches had nothing to do with how the players found out about how Manning operates.
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  11. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Really, I said the Seattle coaches had nothing to do with it, when I was talking about knowing what plays Manning was calling and stopping them in relation to Jason Garrett's play calling?

    See above again.
  12. Tobal

    Tobal Well-Known Member

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    It was a bad matchup for Denver. Seattle is built to stop this type of attack.

    Peyton didn't have the arm or the time to threaten them deep or the legs to buy his WR time to beat the physical coverage.
  13. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Coaching has Nothing to do with Seattle Abusing the Broncos
  14. jobberone

    jobberone Save the Snow Leopard Staff Member

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    Ok gentlemen.

    Your answers must be in the form of a question.

    And say what you mean and mean what you say.
  15. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    What?
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  16. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member

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    Terrific, we're playing Jeopardy.
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  17. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    I think you're thread title is a little misleading...
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  18. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    lol That was good, dude!
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    Nirvana Well-Known Member

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  20. Bluestang

    Bluestang Well-Known Member

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    So what are the signs of correct technique execution, a legitimate pass rush, and talented players playing to their potentials?

    I know it's easy to bash Garrett as a coach but the same style of offense won Baltimore a SB.

    The coaches decide what type of scheme they are going to run based on what their personnel can do. Each offense requires a different skillset and that's where the good GMs can find players that will suit the coaches schemes.

    Despite the many variations of offenses that are out there, they all have the same concepts built in them. (verticals, corner/flat, levels, flood, etc) What the good offenses do is they figure out what they are good at, and they run those plays out of multiple formations to confuse the defense. Peyton Manning ran a total of 7 plays from 13 different formations in Indy and the Broncos are no different. Manning is successful because he can check into a different concept at the LOS when he knows the defense in front of him.

    The SB was a great example of flawless technique and having a constant pass rush that disrupts the QB's rhythm. Manning didn't have time and they constantly harassed him every chance they got, while the backend played their assignments well. Seattle is going to be a good team for a long time and they should be thanking their lucky stars that they got a HC like Carroll.
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