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Coulter, Maher spar at Radio City

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by WoodysGirl, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    Michael Calderone – 1 hr 2 mins ago

    YORK — Bill Maher couldn’t have asked for a better act to follow.

    Maher took the stage at the Radio City Music Hall Monday after Ann Coulter – with whom he’d spend the rest of the night debating – had held forth for 15 minutes on the sins of liberals.

    The applause for Maher was huge – exactly as one might expect in not-exactly-blood-red midtown Manhattan.

    “If we were having this debate in Springfield, Mo., it would be different,” Maher said.

    But even in mostly hostile territory, Coulter was no shrinking violet. When moderate Mark Halperin brought up Meghan McCain’s swipes of Coulter on The Daily Beast from earlier in the day — the daughter of the would-be president called her “offensive, radical, insulting, and confusing all at the same time" — Coulter said it didn’t bother her.

    And Coulter dealt with the occasional boos while debating with Maher over stem cell research, Iraq and of course, the 44th president – all while delivering her own blows on everyone from Timothy Geithner to Nancy Reagan.

    Coulter began her remarks by noting that it was once OK for the media to mock a candidate’s middle name — as when James Danforth Quayle was the GOP’s VP candidate in 1988.

    “Doesn’t the middle name ‘Hussein’ in a Democrat reinforce the impression of the Democrats being soft on Islamic terrorism?” Coulter said, adding that she finds it “hilarious” when Republicans toss it around.

    Coulter talked said liberals are always first to be offended — and are “masters of finger-waving indignation.”

    She didn’t hold back on the media, either.

    “Overnight, the media went from being watchdogs for the people to guard dogs for the government. That’s with the exception of Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann, who are lapdogs of the government,” she said.

    “Time magazine got the ball rolling by comparing Obama to Jesus Christ,” Coulter said moments later. “So I lost a bet: They do know who Jesus Christ is.”

    Coulter riffed on the media’s comparisons of Obama not only to Jesus, but also to Lincoln, asking: “Did Lincoln do blow mostly in high school or did he wait until college?”

    That’s where Maher picked up when he got his 15-minute shot.

    “To start off, George Bush did a lot more blow than Obama ever did,” Maher said. “Please don’t ruin the only thing I like about him.”

    Maher, the host of HBO’s “Real Time,” aimed at the other side — such as congressional Republican indignation about debt.

    “Who put two wars on a credit card?” Maher asked. “There is this debt because George Bush spent money like a pimp with a week to live.”

    Maher got applause for any shots at Bush, as when he mentioned Obama’s quoting of Voltaire — “no George W. Bush, that’s not a Harry Potter character.” He used the term “bimbo” to describe Bush, Quayle and Sarah Palin. And Maher attacked those who consider themselves “real Americans,” by claiming that “if it wasn’t for the two coasts, this country would have been sold off to China thirty years ago.”

    While Coulter criticized the MSNBC hosts, Maher took on Rush Limbaugh.

    “We all say crazy s--t when we’re high,” Maher said. “I think it’s interesting that he is now the undisputed leader of the Republican Party. It shows how clueless they are. They went looking for the future and they found radio.”

    Following the opening statement and remarks, Halperin sat down with both Coulter and Maher and began asking about Monday’s news that Obama had ended the Bush-imposed limits on embryonic stem cell research. That led to the two battling over Nancy Reagan, who has come out in support for Obama’s decision.

    “Nancy Reagan was so madly in love with Ronald Reagan,” Coulter said, “if you told her that we could bring Ronald Reagan back to life, cure Alzheimer’s by disemboweling everyone in this audience, she would say ‘do it.’”

    Maher: “So you’re saying Nancy Reagan, the patron saint of the Republican party ... ”

    Coulter: “She’s not the patron saint of the Republican party.”

    Maher: “She’s somebody you revere. ... You’ve just said she’s bats--t crazy.”

    Coulter responded that it’s funny to see liberals — who once chided Reagan for following astrology — now trying to bring her into a science debate. “I never saw her as a seer of technology,” she added.

    The two went on to debate evolution, Iraq and whether Wall Street is full of liberal Democrats, as Coulter claimed.

    But even the two political opposites had something in common — that is, in addition to enjoying talking in front of a big audience and getting publicity.

    At one point, Halperin asked if the debaters thought Obama regretted any of Obama’s personnel appointments.

    Maher said he regrets Obama’s choice of Geithner, because, he said, the treasury secretary “sounds like he’s sh--ting in his pants.”

    “Do you think he inspires confidence, or you more in the pants thing?” Halperin asked Coulter.

    “No, I agree with Bill 100 percent on this,” she said.

    “We’ve reached consensus here,” Halperin declared. “You both think Tim Geithner’s doing a bad job. If you were Tim Geithner, and heard that Bill Maher and Ann Coulter both thought you were doing a bad job, would you say, 'Oh good’ or ‘That’s a bad thing’?”

    And on that, there was one more point of agreement: Both Maher and Coulter said that a Cabinet secretary wouldn’t want their support.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090310/pl_politico/19830
  2. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    the lex and terry show here in dallas sent 2 of their street goons to cause a disturbance at this event and rag on ann. before the head goon could even get started yelling YOU SUCK he was in an arm bar and removed from his front row spot.
  3. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    You notice liberals are always the ones trying to take away the right to free speech and debate. With goons and planned protests and the like
  4. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    i also notice the neocons while about everything the liberals do.

    both sides are pretty useless in the end.
  5. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    You drunk Ice?
  6. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    would it help your comprehension?

    i hate endless whining about the other side. i don't care which side you're on.

    i can't dumb it down more than that.
  7. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    How exactly is saying you suck taking away free speech from a debate again?

    I think some of you don't even know what you are talking about but just throw...they are taking away free speech or political talking lines out like a conditioned Pavlov's dog drools when they hear a bell.
  8. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    Sounded like a good debate.

    Coulter, Maher - the splitting opposites of each other, sacks and all. ;)
  9. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Is there a video link to this debate. I think they are having another one or two debates as well.

    Might be something to note that they were friends and he used to have her on his show back in the day. One could suggest that he helped make her more popular.

    But either way I would like to see these debates because at the very least they would be entertaining in a funny way.
  10. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    I cannot stand Bill Maher.

    And I think Coulter just tells her "base" what she thinks they want to hear.

    They should both be politicians.
  11. Yeagermeister

    Yeagermeister Active Member

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    If Franken can get elected so could Maher. :laugh2:
  12. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    I disagree with Maher on a number of topics, I think he takes things too far at times.

    But I like his show because it is pretty funny many times and for the most part he laughs at himself as well.

    Also neither would want to be politicians because both got it too good now.
  13. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Minnesota should have a new state motto...Anything is possible.:laugh2:
  14. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    No idea on the link. There's nothing on yahoo, but I'm sure somebody will put one up on youtube at some point.

    I agree about the comedic value of the debate. Some of the quotes in the article gave me a chuckle.
  15. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    I have been looking for it on youtube but so far I have not found anything.:eek::
  16. Rogah

    Rogah Well-Known Member

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    Are you serious..? When someone is invited to speak in a forum with willing participants attending, shouting them down (or otherwise obstructing them) so that they can't be heard while they are speaking diminishes that person's free speech, don't you think..?

    Maher and Coulter are a match made in heaven. They are both snide, mean-spirited, arrogant, condescending - and absolutely hilarious. I follow both with regularity.
  17. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    No...the people can still speak but the funniest part of it is the people who actually have their free speech cut off is those with a dissenting opinion who are arm barred, maced or escorted off the premises...but somehow some don't mind those who actually have their free speech stopped. :laugh2:

    So who is really having their free speech taken away...the two on the stage while someone is heckling them...or the person doing the heckling who is removed from the event?

    Just something to think about.
  18. sbark

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    I've watched the Leftist students at USA Univ. & colleges for along time....in how they shout down any speaker of the opposite political sphere they dont like........and its always Liberal students.

    ........Never see Conserv. students shut down a speaker

    and the Left is always on the verge of violence or actual violence..---be it students, anti-war, Enviro, Prop 8, whatever the D.Kos enemy of the month is thown out to be.....

    yup......the party of peace....peice maybe in regards to Bill Clinton
  19. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    tell me about it
  20. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    agree, we are talking about Liberal democrats...heck H.Chavez could get elected, S. Penn and several other actors would vote that way........

    Chavez......hmmm......maybe better qualified than Obama.....and with actual expeirience at grabbing industries....

    maybe he can write a socialism for dummies book for Obama

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