Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by dcstands4, Aug 5, 2013.
Where did this come from?
No, but i never did want him here.
Some people can handle success well. Others.., cant.
If there is a positive, its his age. If he ever decides to grow up, theres still time.
I wouldn't discount him based on size. He's relatively short, but he has NFL hand size like Wilson and Brees.
I'm pretty undecided on him overall given the stage of his career, but right now I'd avoid him. By all reports he's had alcohol problems since he was in high school and his dad had to take a car away from him because he wouldn't quit drinking.
i get tons of grief for being a Texas homer and many feel that I live with burnt orange blinders on, and that just isnt the case. It is also common knowledge that two of the teams I despise with infinite loathing are A&M and OU. So sometimes I feel the need to justify my takes on certain subjects.
Just seemed to come out of nowhere and not relative to the topic; however, 100% of the fans agree with you. No NFL fan wants David Ash anywhere near their team as their QB.
I'm hoping Ash comes around this season. The Big 12 is open for a QB to step up and take the conference by the horns.
Baylor has no real experienced starter this year, Kansas has the transfer from BYU, Heap I think, but it's his 1st year in the offense. KState has a new starting QB, OkieSt. doesn't know who their QB will be yet, same with OU, WV will have a new QB, Tech has Pachall who has some talent but missed all of 2012 because of drug rehab so who knows there? Really, Iowa St. has one of the best options in Richardson but they don't have the team. Really, Ash is probably the most experienced of all the QBs in the Big 12.
This season is really his to take.
I'm already ready to see Swoopes start.
You were ready a year for this a year before he declared for Texas. LOL....
Yeah I have been ready for a new QB since Gilbert LOL.
his footwork right now is God awful, no way he needs to start.
I know he isn't ready I'm just tired of Ash.
It's going to get worse before it gets any better for Johnny Football:
johhny football is a spoiled rotten brat, who is too small to play in the nfl
You certainly got the brat part right.
I'm not sure if anyone read the cover story in ESPN magazine this week. It was pretty up close, not second hand type stuff.
The kid has some major issues way, way beyond the average kid or football player his age.
Like most kis, he clearly also has planety of good in him. But man, does he have issues.
I wouldn't close the door on Manziel. He's an awesome college QB who shows a lot of talent both mentally and physically on the football field. Most people are reacting negatively to him because of the dirt sucking media who once they smell blood, they stop at nothing to cause more for $$. If you look at the totality of his acts since being thrust into the spotlight, it's not atypical behavor for a 20yr old who almost instantly became famous. What has he really done? Drink some beers, sign some autographs for chump change, attend a UT frat party. Whoopie. I'd still take a look at him come draft day.
we'll see who wants him at QB when he measures 5'9".
Johnny Manziel threw for 3700 yards, completing 68% of his passes in the SEC. He also threw 26 TD's and only 9 int's. He did all this as a freshman. He ran for 1400 yards and 21 TD's. The dude can play and when he goes to the NFL whether he plays this year or not, there will be teams lining up to draft him. Do I think he will be a Good NFL QB? Absolutely, IF he can get his head on straight and I think he will. Would I want him in Dallas? YES
2012 Heisman Trophy winner (first freshman to win)
2012 Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award winner (first freshman to win)
2012 Manning Award winner (first freshman to win)
2012 First-team All-American by:
◦ Associated Press
◦ Football Writers Association of America
◦ Walter Camp Football Foundation
◦ Sporting News
◦ CBS Sports
◦ Sports Illustrated
2012 Sporting News College Football Player of the Year 
2012 SEC Offensive Player of the Year
2012 SEC Freshman of the Year
2012 All-SEC First-Team Quarterback
2013 Cotton Bowl Classic - Offensive MVP
2012 ESPN.com All-Bowl Team
Finalist, Maxwell Award
Finalist, Walter Camp Player of the Year
2-time Walter Camp National Offensive Player of the Week
3-time AT&T All-America Player of the Week
3-time SEC Offensive Player of the Week
9-time SEC Freshman of the Week
NCAA records & notes
FBS Freshman record: rushing yards by a quarterback, season (1,343)
FBS Freshman record: total offense, season (5,116)
Most games with 300+ passing yards and 100+ rushing yards, career (3)
FBS record: First Freshman (and 5th player ever) in FBS history with 3,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards, season
FBS record: Rushing yards by a Quarterback in a Bowl Game 229 yards
Second freshman in FBS history to rush for 1,000 yards and pass for 2,000 yards
First Freshman to win the Heisman Trophy
First Freshman to win the Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award
First Freshman to win the Manning Award
Only the 4th player to have 20 Passing TD's & 20 Rushing TD's, season
SEC records & notes
Most yards total offense, game (576, breaking Archie Manning's 1969 record of 540 yards, and his own record of 557 set two weeks earlier)
Most yards total offense, season (5,116, breaking Cam Newton's 2010 record in two fewer games)
Most yards total offense, game average (383.3, breaking Tim Couch's 1998 record, of 377.4 yards)
Highest yards per play average (50 plays minimum), game (10.71, against Arkansas on September 29, 2012, breaking Steve Tanneyhill's record of 10.0 yards)
First SEC quarterback to pass for 3,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in one season
Texas A&M records & notes
Record for total yards in a season with 5,116.
Record for passing yards in a game with 453 against Arkansas on September 29, 2012.
Record for yards total offense in a game with 576 against Louisiana Tech on October 13, 2012. Broke his previous record of 557 set 2 weeks prior.
In 10 games, Manziel had 4 of the top 10 games in total offense in Texas A&M history.
Logged 10 straight games with 300 or more total yards.
The Third A&M quarterback to surpass 3,000 passing yards in a season.
The 2nd Most Passing Yards in a Single Season.
The Most Rushing TD's in a Single Season.
The 3rd Most Passing TD's in a Single Season.
Tied for 7th Career Passing TD's.
Tied for 13th Career Rushing TD's.
10th in School Career Passing Yards.
20th in School Career Rushing Yards.
Hopefully He grew a couple inches while is was looking over that.
There's going to be a ton of good QB's next year, but if he comes out and he's available at the right price, then of course