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Cowboys have $147M in 2014 cap commitments. At least $20M over projected cap already.

Discussion in 'Jerry/Garrett/Rant Zone' started by RS12, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    When we're 15-20 mil under the cap next season, I'm going to laugh at these kind of posts.
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  2. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    Seriously. This board should institute a "salary cap IQ" test for account approval. How many times do we have to explain how some contracts include years of planned restructure to allow maximum cap flexibility?
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  3. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    I think Ratliff is dead, yes this is what I said.
  4. NorthTexan95

    NorthTexan95 Well-Known Member

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    Yawn. Wake me when getting under the cap is an actual problem.

    Every year we get the report that the Cowboys are already $X amount over the cap and the doomsayers come out. Every year the Cowboys get under the cap relative easily. Rinse, repeat.
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  5. Plankton

    Plankton Well-Known Member

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    It's also called extending your obligation.

    These "planned restructures" not only create space now, but they increase the tab being paid in the future.

    In other words, the same mistakes that were made in the late 90's. The Cowboys better pray for a run of good health, or there is an asteroid in their future. This is not a sound way of doing business, no matter how many people want to claim otherwise.
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  6. Maxmadden

    Maxmadden Active Member

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    Well, they still need something to make them believe the sky is falling TODAY. They can't even wait a few hours for the game.
  7. Maxmadden

    Maxmadden Active Member

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    The cap is like a budget. If you are going to maximize your budget you have to be pretty close to the cap. If you have 20 or 30 million dollars of cap space then you are not spending wisely either. . Sure you can roll it over but at some point you have to spend it or it does absolutely no good to have cap space. You can't take it with you when you go
  8. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    You are right, every year the world is falling, then like a contract is redone and all is well in the land of OZ for 1 more year.
  9. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Exactly right. All teams can restructure and shift money to be cap compliant. That's not some shrewd cap management. They have to. It's not an option.

    The bottom line is the Cowboys have been a bad to mediocre team for nearly 20 years now and rarely have cap space to make major changes. That's just bad management. Which is why little Stevey gets so testy when you question him on it.
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  10. Eddie

    Eddie Well-Known Member

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    Because we've been doing it for the past 20 years and JJ believes it works.

    It's like using your credit card to buy a house.
  11. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    Little Stevey needs to quit giving out stupid contracts to backup offensive linemen(Livings and Bernie), and extending people when not needed(Ratliff).
  12. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    Well said
  13. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    I can see both sides of it.

    On one hand would this team be better without Romo, Ware and Witten?

    On the other the extension for Ratliff was a big miss.
  14. Picksix

    Picksix A Work in Progress

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    A bunch of big name players, some good, some great, one chronically injured, but all getting old, and who've never really won anything. I mean, it's not like they're bums, and I'm not one to promote change just for the sake of change, but football (for he most part) is a young man's game. Sure, we could cut them and take the hit, but either way, we're stuck.
  15. Plankton

    Plankton Well-Known Member

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    Your MO on a year to year basis should not be to borrow today against tomorrow. Unfortunately, this has been the Cowboys MO. Sure, you can keep extending guys out, and create space as you need it, but the bill has to be paid at some point.

    Once you have guys either unable to play anymore due to age or skill, or unable to play because of injury, that is when you are screwed. And, when you flush entire draft classes as was done in 2008 and 2009, you don't have the cheap labor available to offset en expiring vet contract. This forces them to overpay to find replacements, and makes the situation worse.
  16. MartinRamone

    MartinRamone Well-Known Member

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    Cap is a joke, players will restructure their contracts and it will be fine.
  17. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    You are fabulously incorrect about planned restructuring. Romeo's money for example in 2014. Guaranteed. Instead of doing it as a signing bonus as other teams might, we leave the option to absorb the entire cap hit in 2014.

    That gives us far more flexibility than you understand. If it becomes clear this year that Romo is not going to be the answer for us, we are out of the financial pain of his deal MUCH sooner than if we did a straight bonus.

    You completely miss the point on planned restructures and what it means for the 2014 cap.
  18. JakeCamp12

    JakeCamp12 Well-Known Member

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    Well when you are JJ and looking at the team through Jack Daniels glasses, we are always one off season away from winning a Super Bowl, so you keep spending like a drunken sailor on leave. Unfortunately, every January we wake up from the stupor and start running around looking for the next quick fix and trying to shed the anchors that we signed in previous years. Should be interesting to see what happens this year and how the team finishes.
  19. Plankton

    Plankton Well-Known Member

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    Right.

    Except, they can't absorb the whole cap hit in 2014. Why? Because they are over the projected cap. This "planned restructure" is setting up a huge fall later on.

    Hypothetically, If Romo ends up with a career ending injury, what happens with that money? Is it suddenly not an issue? Or, does that guaranteed aspect of the money cause the cap to be crippled with dead money?

    All this serves to do is to push the obligation ahead. But, hey, as long as Romo plays until he's 100, they'll be OK.
  20. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    I don't really care to do it right now but when this same story was told this offseason I wnet through all of the players that could released like Bernadeau, Livings, Ratliff, etc as well as restructures on Carr, Witten, Romo, etc that would allow us to get under that easily. Lee was a concern but he has been resigned to a deal favorable to the club.

    Now granted we will not be able to be big players on free agency and will have to build through the draft but this notion that we are going to have to blow up the club and still be screwed is just wrong. Look at the remaining years on guys deals, their salaries, and then divide. Take that number and subtract it from the current salary and that is your savings. It's not difficult to figure out but it doesn't appear basic division and critical thinking are high on ESPN's list.

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