Discussion in 'Draft Day Zone' started by Hostile, Apr 18, 2006.
I like it!
this guy is our new QB ?
He gives us a fast, shifty type of WR besides Glenn. Crayton is more of a possession guy. TO is kind of the jack of all trades, big, fast...seems like a good player to have as an option. If he is a return specialist, I'm sure it wouldnt hurt to give him some quick hitting passes and let him do some damage underneath.
Just for the sake of trading down? How do you know we were offered anything worthwhile to trade down? I haven't seen enough of Carpenter (or any of these guys) to make a judgement, but if they had Carpenter targetted, then they probably didn't want to trade down unless a tempting package was offered (which I'm assuming wasn't the case.)
Anyone listen to Skylers call from Bill and Jerrah? Other then saying "thanks coack Jones" the kis sounded like we was in heaven. Bill said he had a few of his "homies" here waiting for him asked him if he was ready to return kicks and joked that he may play him at QB. Clips on dallascowboys.com
Said for a long time now if we got Carpenter or Lawson with the #18 Pick I would be happy with that one...and We got Carpenter. I have seen enough of the Ohio State games to know the guy has a non stop motor and is a good overall player.
Fasano threw me for a loop but after hearing Jerry talk about the two TE sets I feel better about it. Liked Fasano all along just did not see us taking a TE so high.
Hatcher is a headscratcher to me but maybe he will turn into something special down the road or a possible Ellis replacement if Hatcher turns out well.
I like the Skyler pick because the kid is flat out electric in the return game and gives us plenty of options for trick plays and with his speed reverses.
Pat Watkins could turn out to be a great pick for us, but will say he probably will struggle against smaller quick/shifty WRs like Washingtons Moss.
Love the Montavious Stanley pick. The guy is a good player and probably would have went higher if he was healthy all last year. Also got to love his enthusiasm.
The two O-Linemen taken in the last round are camp bodies at worse, depth probably at best.
Mark Clayton it was, the Raven's 1st round pick last year
for you guys saing Skyler would have been available in the 5th/6th rounds, many people have been saying that there could have been a run of returners in the 4th round, and Skyler's name was always mentioned, we took him where many projected him to go
I liked Avant better, but whatever, whats done is done. Lets see what he has got.
avant has no return skills and he has no quickness or speed. we have agood possession guy in Crayton, so a guy like green was a good pick.
In the video he doesn't look fast as much as he just looks quick. He seemed to get caught from behind a couple of times. He got tackled by a punter too in one of those returns, not a great sign, but he was at the punter. But he has moves on top of moves. That second clip will show you that. He changed directions in one step, then one step later, he did it again and went about 40 yards down the sideline.
Seems like everyone in the East wants that small WR who can run the slip screen and be versatile. Looks like we got our guy, glad we don't have 3 of em though.:laugh2:
I did not watch a huge amount of LSU football but I did watch some. Honestly, this guy did not jump out at me as special at all in the passing game. I guess I don't understand this pick. We've been told that you have to be able to play more then one position or you don't have a spot on the team. How many guys have we seen cut because of this? Special Teams player? Yeah, but honestly, why are we drafting a Special Teams player in the 4th round who, IMO, will not beat out any of our top four WRs on the roster now.
The way I see it:
are probably all going to beat this guy out.
I don't know but none of these guys were 4th Rd picks.
This is probably the pick I hated the most.
If I'm not mistaken, Hatcher is also an academic award winner, so that means he is smart and can pick up our scheme quickly...
hi everyone. This is my first post on this site. I didn't even know this site existed until today, but I'm very glad I found it.
Here's my take on the 2006 Cowboys draft:
I am as excited with this year's draft as I was with last year's draft. In 2005, I remember being very excited about the prospects of Ware and Spears while having a wait-and-see attitude with the rest of the 2005 draft class. This year I am excited about Carpenter and Fasano and also have a wait-and-see attitude with the rest of the 2006 draft class. We frankly just don't know how these guys are going to do until the season starts. So "experts" who gave the Cowboys an "A" last year were just as irresponsible as "experts" who gave them a "C" this year. I tend to stay away from Yahoo.com and NFL.com for collegiate player profiles. They are rarely updated after the Senior bowl, and their mock drafts are dated at best. Gosselin, Te Thomas and NFL Draft Scout are some good draft experts I try to pay attention to. Norm Hitzges is another "draft guru" I highly recommend listening to on www.theticket.com.
Most of these other “experts” are complete clowns. For example, if you head over to Yahoo.com, this guy Charles Robinson had me chuckling. He has 2 completely different opinions of LB Bobby Carpenter. On Sunday morning he writes about the #18 pick of Carpenter, "Whoa. Huge surprise. Huge. Carpenter will likely have to be moved to the inside for the Cowboys in the 3-4 scheme. He doesn't fit on the outside from that set. Carpenter ran in the 4.6 range at Ohio State's pro day despite not being totally healthy. He's a great pursuit guy, but not a big hitter. One of the big questions is whether he can handle having to drop into pass coverage. Playing on the inside, that's not so much of a concern." http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/draft?analysis=1
The next day, the SAME Charles Robinson writes: "High marks - Bobby Carpenter is a solid pick at No. 18 overall and gives the Cowboys impressive depth at outside linebacker " http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AuflDDKNqg9pl3_H2s9MA_9DubYF?slug=cr-nfcgrades050106&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
So which is it? Inside? Outside? Surprise pick? Solid pick?!?!?!? Does this guy even have a clue???? I think he may have been a draft consultant for the Jets in the 1980s and early 1990s.
I can't wait to see some footage of Stanley, Watkins this weekend. I'm also excited about the prospects of LB Kai Parham and the WR from my Alma Mater, Monmouth University - Miles Austin. Rookie Minicamps start this weekend!!! Hopefully we’ll get to see some of y’all here at Texas Stadium this year.
Welcome to the board jeff.
And it sounds like that guy from yahoo is someone we like to call a mediot...an idiot in the media. :laugh2:
Glad to be here. I was at the Cowboys draft party at Gillies with my 1000 page custom draft guide and my heart almost sank when we picked Carpenter over Lawson. However, the more I thought about it afterwards, the more it made sense. If the Cowboys drafted Lawson, then Ware has to be moved to the strong side OLB position because Ware and Lawson play the same exact position. Ware then has to learn yet another position in only his 2nd year in the league. By drafting Carpenter, he's a natural strong side OLB in a 3-4 scheme. So there's more instant cohesion with a Carpenter-Ware duo than a Ware-Lawson duo. You're basically picking a guy who plugs into your scheme better than Lawson. From everything I've seen and read about Carpenter, he's a bigger, stronger, faster Nguyen. So, if you liked Nguyen and his nonstop motor, you'll like Carpenter.
Thanks Jeff, since Miles Austin WR, 6-2 1/2 219, with 4.47 in 40 to 4.52 have you seen him play. I have heard different things about him, from, he doesnt have deep speed, to super hands, great catches. Also, read where he has a 40 to 41 inch vertical leap. Maybe he can be better than Alvin Harper whom was 6-3, 210 with 4.49 speed in 40.
so, just maybe Miles Austin is our young WR, and he can learn from TO, about getting in shape, etc, working hard, etc, so what can you tell us about him Jeff?
I graduated from Monmouth in 1997, so I never saw Austin play at all. My friends who have seen him play tell me that he reminds them of an Ed McCaffrey/Ricky Proehl type receiver. I was very disappointed when New Orleans took WR Mike Hass in the draft, but maybe Austin can be the same type of player.
interesting draft. great thread too.
For the naysayers on the subject of skyler green i cant recall where it was said but some coaches have said he is like another version of dante hall.
If green turns in to half the player hall is for the chiefs for a 4th round pick im pretty darn happy.