Discussion in 'History Zone' started by Hostile, Mar 16, 2007.
Officially, I think the rookie record might be Jimmie Jones.
I'm going to give you #1 -- because I can't imagine that anyone would guess him.
#1 (3rd all-time) Buddy Dial
#2 (8th all-time) Bob Hayes
#3 (15th all-time) Lance Alworth
#4 (20th all-time) Frank Clarke
#5 (tied for 30th all-time) Lance Rentzel
And Dial is the only one of the five who averaged over 20 yards per catch.
Go figure ....
Martin's accomplishments should not be short changed just because it was not an official stat prior to 1980.
I agree, but then neither should Decon Jones or any of the other greats.
For the season, it's probably Jeffcoat with 14.
All time, it's probably Ed "Too Tall" Jones.
Yeah, the whole question was kind of a "trick" question, because it's not easily answered because the records are not kept from past players.
Harvey Martin (I met him in person) was a great player...and those glasses he wore after games made him look really like a cartoon person! Wonderful man!
Trivia questions like this are hard to substantiate...(sp)...
Martin holds the "unofficial" (even though they were real sacks that can be witnessed by watching tapes of the games) team record for sacks in all 3 cateogies - rookie year, season, and career. Go back and review the article I posted.
I agree with you about the great Deacon Jones, but I was only talking about Cowboy team records.
Jeffcoat played with lots of different lines. When he broke in, it was White, Too Tall and John Dutton. In the late 80s, it was guys like Dean Hamel, Willie Broughton, Tony Tolbert and Danny Noonan. In the early 90s, it was Stubbs, Tolbert, Jones and Noonan. By the time 93 rolled around, it was Tolbert, Jones, Haley, Maryland and Casillas and Lett. In 95, he was traded to Buffalo.
Wasn't meant to be a trick question, as they were real sacks. However, I'm glad it gave us a brief moment to reflect on the great play of Harvey Martin. That's neat that you met him in person. He was one cool cat.
Sadly he took a wrong turn after football with drugs, but he ridded himselves of those demons and was clean for last few years of his life. Tragically he died at the early age of 51.
I forgot...how did he die?
fist-fight w/ your's truly, let that be a lesson to ya!
I think it was heart-related
There's no way to tell who really holds those records. Nobody kept stats on guys like Lilly, Cole, Pugh, Andrie or even Too Tall in the early days. Just too hard to say. One thing though, DeMarcus Ware is going to reck those career stats. Also, I was wrong on the official Rookie record. I think I said 7.5 for rookies, don't remember. Ware had 8 his rookie year.
Damn, you're a mean bastid!
I ain't messin wit you! (for your own good)...you will live longer...
Charlie Waters, correct!
Skip asked, "even Charles Haley?" and big Nate said, "even Charles."
Nope, just an assistant.
sweet, I think I saw it on an NFLN thing, Dallas Cowboys @ Atlanta Falcons 1981 Divisional playoffs and he botched the snap.
It was Martin but it was Texas Stadium in the final regular season game of 1979.
Nate was an intimating player on the field, but off, he was a gentle giant...and there is no doubt in my mind that Haley knew enough to not mess with him! And, although I might be in the minority...I absoutely admired Charles Haley...
lol, Charles was like 251
That's amazing to me.