1. Like to discuss POLITICS? Come join us at PUNNDITS.com!
    If you like discussing politics and other related topics then your new home (hopefully) for doing just that can be found on Punndits.com! Come join us and help us grow Punndits into a wonderful and safe place to discuss politics with everyone.
    Dismiss Notice

Curious: Where would Escobar rank among this year's TE class?

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Corleone, Mar 15, 2014.

  1. Corleone

    Corleone Well-Known Member

    1,042 Messages
    131 Likes Received
    I was watching path to the draft where they were breaking down the top five tight ends and I was just curious if anyone had an opinion on where last years class would rank with this years? I know Escobar's scouting report noted he had exceptional ball skills but did not block and was slow. Where would he fit if he came out this year?

    Eifert, Ertz, Kelce, Escobar, McDonald are the ones I remember from 2013. I saw a Cowboy website do this with DEs and it was interesting,

    and no I want nothing to do with drafting a TE!
    vlad likes this.
  2. Macnalty

    Macnalty Well-Known Member

    1,975 Messages
    451 Likes Received
    I think Eifert and Ebron are similar and would rate them 1 and 1a, next Austin Seferian-Jenkins and Ertz both have some inconsistency issues and similar talent, with Escobar(best hands of whole group) behind Jace Amaro is my opinion after realizing none of these guys are once in a generational. I think we did well getting Escobar he is a Witten in the making with better hands. I know he is not so popular right now, it would of helped if we had not abandoned the "12" offense they touted so much last year. I am still wondering what happened to James Hanna's production last year he is was much faster than all these TE's, at the combine he exhibited poor catching technique and dropped down to us. What I saw of him indicated his catching technique was improved. Hope both have a breakout year and they very well could.
    AmishCowboy, casmith07 and Corleone like this.
  3. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

    23,537 Messages
    13,380 Likes Received
    I like Escobar. He is very similar to Witten. Terrific hands and a feel for getting open. Witten was not a good blocker as a rookie either. Escobar's top speed is actually faster than Witten's. Escobar is just slower off the line.
  4. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

    23,537 Messages
    13,380 Likes Received
    They used Hanna as a blocker about 85% of the time in 2013. The pass routes that he did run were primarily short crossing routes or short routes into the flat. It would be interesting to see Hanna get more opportunities to run longer routes where he would put pressure on LBs to cover him.
  5. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

    20,335 Messages
    6,947 Likes Received
    I agree, not Escobar's fault his OC had no idea how to use him.
    AmishCowboy likes this.
  6. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

    20,335 Messages
    6,947 Likes Received
    This team collects TE's like women collect shoes. They wanted a second one last year and Linehan likes to throw middle of the field. You do the math.
  7. casmith07

    casmith07 Attorney-at-Zone

    30,268 Messages
    6,060 Likes Received
    Escobar and Witten should have a good year with Linehan's offense.

    Murray could get 2000 all purpose yards.
  8. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

    10,612 Messages
    5,227 Likes Received
    We will have to see how things work out in the draft but Keiper has amaro going in rd 3 and if you have Escobar ranked behind him, that means we way over reached for him at the top of rd 2
    Common Sense likes this.

    DEMARC0MURRAY29 Active Member

    325 Messages
    146 Likes Received
    I still think Ertz wil be the best TE from that class, closely followed by Escobar.
  10. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

    17,684 Messages
    2,780 Likes Received
    For the life of me I can't understand why Red hasn't given him the chance to do just that.
  11. Macnalty

    Macnalty Well-Known Member

    1,975 Messages
    451 Likes Received
    Amaro is a force no matter what is now in the media, he will be drafted quickly in the early second rd if not the tail of the first. He is smaller than Escobar but bares a closer resemblance to a WR than a TE. We have something in Escobar so he is not a wash out or wasted pick IMO. Although we did not see him make any of those tough grabs he does have them in his repertoire and his college team did not know what or how to use him correctly within their offense IMO. At the end of day you want Amaro or Escobar on your team.
    I was amazed that Hanna did not get more exposure last year(he is off the charts fast for TE and his hands look vastly improved), it seemed we had so many weapons and yet we only used a selective few. Now this might have been because of that darn cyst on Tony's back for all I know.
  12. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

    10,612 Messages
    5,227 Likes Received
    Similar lofty projections were made about Escobar after the draft
    Let's see how it actually plays out
  13. Macnalty

    Macnalty Well-Known Member

    1,975 Messages
    451 Likes Received
    Oh I agree with you if he does not jump off the screen this season we need to start looking again for a Witten replacement. He has the pedigree but we all realize it takes more than that to play in the NFL.
  14. Sarge

    Sarge Red, White and brew... Staff Member

    22,954 Messages
    4,061 Likes Received

    That's nothing to brag about. ;)
  15. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

    23,537 Messages
    13,380 Likes Received
    Having Hanna as primarily a blocking TE was one of the oddest things that they did in 2013. They had a guy that they eventually cut (Andre Smith) that was a good blocker.
  16. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

    37,570 Messages
    21,844 Likes Received
    Sixth. Behind Ebron, Amaro, Niklas, Serafin-Jenkins and Fiedorowicz. Somewhere in the fourth round, where he should have been picked last year.
    visionary likes this.
  17. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

    8,085 Messages
    2,846 Likes Received
    I remember this. Parcells referred to Witten as an effort blocker and would benefit from being mentored by Campbell.
  18. dbonham

    dbonham Well-Known Member

    582 Messages
    441 Likes Received
    Wanna see Escobar and Tony develop a undefendable route like the back shoulder fade to Dez. I think if you put the ball up high on a seam route in the end zone and let him box the defender out and test his hands good things will happen. He either catches it or it sails through the goalposts harmlessly.

    Witten can catch the seam in the open field, but he's never been a jump ball guy, as good as he is boxing defenders out on shallow routes.
  19. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

    7,810 Messages
    3,685 Likes Received
    Jordan Reed might have something about that. As a Gator fan I can tell you that kid has talent and Washington got a good player. Lucky for us he has crap QB throwing to him.
  20. Tezz

    Tezz Active Member

    410 Messages
    43 Likes Received
    I think this years TE class is a lot better and I liked last years class.

Share This Page