News: Dallas Cowboys: Will DeMarcus Lawrence be on the roster in 2018?

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  1. Howboutdemcowboys31

    Howboutdemcowboys31 Well-Known Member

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    - Back problems / always hurt
    - PED suspension
    - Inconaistent play

    Hell no. Even if he gets 10 sacks this year it would have to be team friendly
     
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  2. AbeBeta

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    I'm pointing out an inaccuracy in the article. What are you arguing about?
     
  3. robjay04

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    He did it once and it was for medicine he was taking that he didn't clear with the league. It's obviously his fault but I would feel much worse if it was an illegal substance.

    Von Miller had bigger red flags when he was up for negotiations considering he tried to cheat a drug test and was suspended 6 games.
     
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  4. robjay04

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    Ivey should be given an opportunity to make the team but if he doesn't it would be because he was outperformed by a veteran on the roster, after all it is a crowded position room. I root for every draft pick to make the team but truth is...a lot of times 6th-7th round don't make the cut. Marinelli was excited but he should be...this is the first time he has really got to pick the players for his system since he has been the coordinator.

    This isn't an endorsement of Marinelli. I just wouldn't question his job if a late round pick doesn't make the roster.
     
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  5. Hailmary

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    I think there are three big factors on whether we resign him or not.

    1. How Taco, Irving and Tapper performs. If any one of them shows up this year as a legitimate pass rusher, then I think we let Lawrence walk regardless of how well he performs. They'd be younger and cheaper.

    2. Who else is available in FA?

    3. Where will we pick in the next draft? If we falter this season and end up with a higher than expected pick, I can see us spending a 1st on a DE for a second year in a row and letting Lawrence walk. If we go deep into the playoffs and end up picking at the end of the first, I can see us resigning him if the price is right.
     
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  6. Wood

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    My sense is no. Dallas only resigns players who are elite at their positions and turns over rest of lineup thru the draft. Whats really important is that Charlton shows enough that he can replace Lawrence next year at RDE. I also think Dallas takes run at FA DE (tier 1 or 2) in off-season.
     
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  7. robjay04

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    Those are 3 quality factors but I still believe production easily outweighs the rest. If Lawrence puts together double digit sacks...he will prove to be a quality pass rusher when healthy and Dallas would feel the pressure to resign him.

    I actually have high expectations for Lawrence this season if he's healthy. After all, it's his contract year. Nick Perry has one season above 4 sacks and one of the best run franchises in the league resigned him to a 5 year, 60 million dollar contract. I'm sure Lawrence took note of that contract.
     
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  8. waving monkey

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    I dont think it's necessary with this group to recount the number of times Marinelli had taken chopped liver and and
    made a rare sirloin.
     
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  9. The Natural

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    No, he sucks.
     
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  10. CCBoy

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    I wasn't arguing anything, but you have gone out of your way twice now, to raise up a conflict...good night, buddy.
     
  11. AbeBeta

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    Dude. It isn't a conflict with you - it is pointing out crap reporting in the article.

    Are you the author? Is that why you are offended?
     
  12. LocimusPrime

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    • 13-20 sacks .........yes
    • 10-12 sacks..........probably
    • 7-9 sacks..............maybe
    • 5-6 sacks..............unlikely
    • Less than 5...........nope

    Now in regards to nick perry's contract after getting his 11.5 sacks last season...it's not that much. He's only 6mill a year against the cap. That's way less than......Tyrone Crawford

    http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-...act-with-packers-not-as-monstrous-as-it-seems
     
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  13. erod

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    Lawrence is just a guy. It would be stupid to pay him big money.
     
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  14. LocimusPrime

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    Like T Crawford money? :muttley::muttley::muttley:
     
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  15. bsbellomy

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    I'm going to say there is about a 2% chance. Dude is going the way of Marcus Spears, and unfortunately for him he doesn't have a TV personality.
     
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  16. CCBoy

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    Mailbag: Who Can Get Double-Digit Sacks? Surprise Rookie Wide Receiver?
    http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...ble-digit-sacks-surprise-rookie-wide-receiver



    REUBEN JOHNSON
    NASHVILLE, TN

    Is there a defensive end on our roster that you think could be a surprise double-digit sack guy, or does Rod Marinelli's philosophy of constantly rotating players hinder that?

    Rob: A true rotation does limit a player’s snaps and thus the number of chances he has for sacks. But I’m fairly certain Marinelli would adjust the rotation if he found a “war daddy,” a guy that defense’s must account on each play, each game, each season. He hasn’t had that type of player since DeMarcus Ware, but Plan B is to find solid production from a large group of contributors. If the defense can cobble together six, seven sacks from six, seven guys, those results sound pretty good.

    Bryan: If someone is productive that won't keep these coaches playing that guy despite a rotation. DeMarcus Lawrence comes to mind as that guy who could be a double digit guy. Maybe David Irving as well. They have guys that have the potential; it's a matter of those guys finishing...
     
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  17. CCBoy

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    DeMarcus Lawrence.

    The Dallas Cowboys need you in the worst way. Need you to become that guy you should have become following the 2015 season. Remember that guy that year? Started 13 of 16 games at defensive end his second season. Led the team with eight sacks, still the most by a Cowboys player since Jason Hatcher’s 11 in 2013. He finished with 56 tackles, ranked second on the team with 31 QB pressures and was third with eight tackles for loss...

    ...Sure, the Cowboys drafted defensive end Taco Charlton with the 28th pick. But let’s remember, he’s a rookie. Sure, Mayowa led the team last year, but with just six sacks. Jack Crawford is gone. Irving will miss the first four games of the season. Tapper hasn’t played a single NFL down. Demontre’ Moore is trying to save his NFL career. And Tyrone Crawford will play where needed.

    But if D-Law can repeat his 2015 production, if he can improve on that, either on the right side or the left side, this Cowboys defense just might become something else. If they can just get that one guy, the one the opposing quarterback is looking for every time he breaks the huddle – “Uh, OK, where is No. 90? – this defensive front just might jump last year’s 14th-ranked defense into the top 10...

    http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...time-lay-down-some-law-become-highly-relevant
     
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  18. ShiningStar

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    No, and the reason can be, because we can fill it and we can fill it easily. Just taking what he has accomplished, plug someone else in who wants it more. This is the time the franchise needs to put the franchise first and not hold on to potential, or what they think is potential. Dump him now, move on and forget about it. Now is the time. We got the D young now. no need to hold on to him.
     
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  19. Idgit

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    I like Lawrence as a player. He's got potential to contribute pressure if we had more options around him. I can't see how we could extend him long terms with that back, though. If he doesn't get the long-term deal he wants in FA and is willing to play for a one or two year deal with big money each season but not much up front or guaranteed, great. I suspect he'll get a decent deal someplace, though, and we'll let him walk. Which is a shame, because if it weren't for his back issues, he'd be a pretty good player and a definite piece of the DL puzzle for us.

    Irving's the one I'm having a harder time deciding what to do with.
     
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  20. ShiningStar

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    Irving is easier, can he or can he not play a full game, we do now hes a good part time player. Thats easy. The problem with DL is, the back, and at this stage, its easier to dump him and move on. Its not going to fully heal and even if it does, he might have a better career with another team. We have to remember also, what one player does with a team is not automatic its what they will do with another team. Tho at this junction Dallas can just fill the spot and move on. Its not like DL is going to make or break us.
     
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