Discussion in 'Sports Zone' started by RastaRocket, Oct 3, 2013.
Hat trick for Seguin!
1 Goal + 3 assists for Nichushkin!
Now Nuke is top 5 in rookie scoring.
Bet the Bruins feel silly now
Eriksson back out with another concussion.
Where are those Boston and Philly homers at that were talking crap earlier in the off season? I know you are on here!
Love the early season chest thumping.
Seguin is doing exactly what Seguin does. Sandwiches some spectacular multi-point games in between stretches of so-so games in the regular season.
Try this. Compare his production against bad team with his production against good teams. If the Stars reach the playoffs they won't be playing bad teams. It is easy for good, physical teams to take Seguin out of the game.
Meanwhile Erickson has had a tough go with his second concussion and Reilly Smith has earned second line minutes and been a great surprise and a big part of the Eastern Conference leading team.
As for where the Bruins fans are... we are watching our team sitting at first place in the Eastern Conference only three points from top spot in the league.
Hopefully the Stars can somehow make the playoffs so we can compare the trade in a meaningful way rather than regular season glory points.
Of course the Bruins will be good, and of course Seguin will do better vs. lesser teams. Who doesn't perform better vs. lesser teams? Boston would still be doing well with Seguin on their team. We can find another Reilly Smith.
All I know, is our first line is set for what looks like the next decade and it has been one of the most dominant lines in the entire NHL.
All I'm saying is that Seguin is doing exactly what Seguin does with the Stars.
Through 26 games he has 13 of his points in just three games and 14 points in the other 23 games.
He averages 4.3 PPG in his big games, (3+ points) and .6 ppg in the rest.
He has averaged 1.9 ppg against teams which did not make the playoffs last year and .5 ppg against teams that did make the playoffs.
This is exactly what he did with Boston. Super talented player but very inconsistent. Easily neutralized by a good checking line. Tons of talent but very little heart.
Boston 83 goals
Dallas 78 goals.
I'll take my scoring spread across 3/4 lines over one strong first line any day of the week.
NHL playoff history is littered with the carrion of high scoring one line teams that are easily defensed by a team that can roll out four lines and get some scoring from all of them.
The book has yet to be finished on this trade but I'm not seeing anything other than exactly what I expected from Sequin.
I might consider letting things play out before I started calling out "all those Boston homers".
Here's another little trade related nugget.
Loui+Smith= 5,15M cap hit, 12g-23a-35pts in 55 games.
Seguin+ Peverly= 9M cap hit, 20g-18a-38pts in 55 games.
Smith scored another game winner last night.
Pevs is temporary and Seguin is part of the core of our team going forward. Compare Seguin to Lucic (5.75 vs. 6 mil) if you're going to compare salary, that is what he means to Dallas. There is a reason they had to take Pevs contract back and trade prospects to get him. It was a cap saving move for Boston and a core acquiring move for Dallas. Smith+Loui is part of Bostons future (which is good for them), but Pevs is really just a temporary stop gap for Dallas. The trade was all about one player for us.
My Rangers just got murdered by nashville, so there's that.
Well yea but the main point is that production-wise the trade is essentially dead even at this point. I haven't looked at the +/- yet which might sway things one way or the other a bit. The fact that Boston is getting the production at a lower cost is really secondary to that point. Given that, the thought that "Boston must feel silly" is a bit of wishful thinking.
I agree... It's not a terrible trade like I may hype it up to be sometimes. I thought it was a good two way trade from the get go that fit both teams and Smith is really helping Boston out right now. I'm not sure what's wrong with Loui though, but he hasn't had a steady dose of games yet either.
An awesome update.
Nichushkin has been selected for the Russian olympic team!
Not much of a surprise.
In terms of skill, the Russians might be the best team in the Olympics. You could theoretically have one line featuring Datsyuk and Ovechkin and another with Malkin and Kovalchuck. Scary good...though I doubt they will want to play any defense.
It's pretty incredible he made the olympic team this early though.
For sure, he's a skilled guy.
Initially I thought that he must have done something great in the KHL last year, but he really didn't stats-wise. It will be interesting to see if they use him in anything more than a 4th line role, or even dress him.
I just got into hockey recently and I'm a big fan of the local Missouri Mavericks in the CHL. Going to games live is AWESOME! Haven't really found a pro team I like yet. Maybe Blues since they are local, but I like the Caps cause of Ovechkin, and the Blue Jackets because my wife likes Civil War stuff.
This is why I love the Stars
Tim Thomas to Dallas. No details on the return to FLA yet.
Love Thomas. Watched him take The University of Vermont to a bad goal away from the NCAA championship and then the Bruins to the Cup.
Thomas for Dan Ellis straight up. I'm just happy they got rid of Ellis' 2nd year. I like Thomas as well, he will be a solid backup for the final stretch.
The seats at the games keep getting emptier and emptier. So sad.