Discussion in 'Sports Zone' started by Doomsday101, Feb 18, 2013.
You don't think the fact he was a minority in a white sport had anything to do with it?
Danica >> Johanna
She has 7 top 10's on the nationwide in her 1st season. Montoya did not come into NASCAR winning right away either. These guys are not handing out top cars to just anyone if they did not feel she had the ability they would find someone who did. As for how she is coming up she went from Indy racing to nationwide just like her male counterparts have done and she is racing in limited events on the Cup series just like many of her male counterparts have done.
You may think she sucks they don't
No because he was winning Jr events at a very young age that is why he was being seen on talk shows as a child. As he got college he was highly sought after by the top colleges and when he was there he wins 3 US Amateur consecutively then in his 2nd year on the PGA wins his 1st major and goes on to win 14 total at this point?
Only 3 men in the history of the game have won double digits in Majors Jack Nicklaus with 18, Tiger with 14 and Walter Hagen won 11 all the other all time greats of the game like Hogan, Jones, Watson and a host of others are well behind what Tiger has accomplished.
Calling someone hyped and that person living up and exceeding the hype is pretty damn impressive. You may not like the guy but he is the best the game has ever seen.
She hasn't shown that at all. She didn't run up front at all last year in the Nationwide series. She won't run up front this year in the cup series. Heck, she won one race in all the years she drove the open wheel cars and she's always had great equipment simply because of her gender.
She's also the only woman to ever attempt to qualify for the 500 with Hendrick equipment. Her teammates also qualified right up front.
You can pretend it's an amazing feat, it's not. It's historical, but not really that impressive when you know the details.
She's in the cup series full time this year. She started her stock car career running full time Nationwide and selective cup races last year. That is way too ambitious. She's not ready and showed it last year. She would never be where she's at right now if not for being a woman.
She will not be in the top 20 in points this year. Maybe not even top 25. She's in over her head. Especially when she gets off the plate tracks and actually has to drive the car.
There hasn't been one open wheel driver in the modern era who came over to run one of these top two series that has been a success story. Montoya's about the best name you can mention and he hasn't won a thing outside of a couple of road course races.
Carpentier flamed out. Hornish flamed out and is now gaining experience back in Nationwide. I don't expect anything more from Danica. You can't expect to learn on the fly against the best in the business. She should have started in a lower series where her equipment advantage might have given her a chance to be competitive.
never stated it was an amazing feat but it is a big deal being the 1st to do something and while the equipment is very good it still takes skill to hit your marks at the speed they are traveling to post the time that she did. Everyone else was shooting for the top spot. As for what you think is too ambitious the reason she did not start in ARCA was because of experiance in the Indy racing league just as other open wheel drivers have done she is taking the same path as them.
How she may finish this season it is hard to say her best finish in cup was at Phoenix that is not a plate race and on Nationwide she finished 9th at Bristol and that sure as heck is not a plate race.
She could start by not filming anymore provocative Go Daddy commercials.
She's not a victim. She's usually her sexuality to keep her butt in that seat. While I think she has talent, she certainly doesn't have the on track performance to warrant such quality rides everywhere she's been.
Daniel Patrick would have a much tougher road.
Really Tony Stewart was racing open wheel before he went to NASCAR
Never said she was a victim what is it with you putting words in people mouth? She is doing what other have done, will she find instant success chances are no, there is a lot that goes into it but she is taking the same path as male counter parts have done and what people in their business think are the right moves and right way to do it as opposed to a know it all message board member. You act as if you know everything as opposed to those who do this for a living. :laugh2:
Go get a clue before telling others they don't know. :laugh2:
Nationwide is a lower level. She struggled to get 10th every week with the best car in the field most of the time. In Cup, she'll struggle to run 20th. Watch and see.
It's not hard to say where she'll finish this year. Outside the top 20. I guarantee it.
Her experience in the IRL means nothing. We're talking about stock car experience. She had none. She's been trying to learn on the fly since last year. Following a path of such success stories as Marcos Ambrose and Juan Pablo Montoya and Patrick Carpentier and Sam Hornish Jr. They of the combined no wins outside the road courses and no top 10 points finishes in their career. These guys are field fillers.
Yes Mr know it all you know because of your vast experiance as opposed to people who actually own and run these cars. Yes your word is everything.
You are such a joke acting as if you know it all and yet have done nothing even close to what these professional have done.
You said she can't help it. I laugh at that ridiculous notion since she films an endless reel of sexually driven commercials. Yes....she clearly has no control over it.
Danica Patrick is all hat and no cattle. I believe she has talent but it needs to be developed over time. Most of these guys have years and years of experience racing against each other in similar chassis before they arrive in the cup series. Danica's trying to skip all that and jump right in with drivers that are frankly her superior. She can't hang and won't hang for a very long time, if ever.
I know enough not to say ridiculous things like her IRL experience allows her to jump into Nationwide without experience.
I would get laughed out of any Nascar hauler saying something like that.
She makes commercial so does everyone else in her sport, those logo on the side and other sponsor not only expect it they demand it.
Tony Stewart also raced the lower levels of stock car too.
Google failed you there.
Might I suggest trying Mario Andretti?
Yeah that is why these owners put these drivers in these cars. Only laughing stock is you. You act as if you know all there is to know and yet the more you talk the more you show you don't know much at all.
No one is putting people behind the wheels of these very expensive cars if they don't believe in their talent level to do the job.
Yes. All drivers attempt to sell their body in their sponsor commercials.
Stewart was racing many different level of midgets and so on and was racing in the indy league as well.